possession

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by 2cool, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. 2cool

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    Anybody here believe in possession? I don't believe in it. I mean, you rarely hear about people being possessed. My Aunt says the soul isn't easily "possessed" and usually victims usually are mentally or terminaly ill. (she's like a buff on ghosts and all that stuff). If Satan is so damn powerful shouldn't he be able to prey on anyone besides the mentally unstable and weak?
     
  2. Colours

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    i wouldnt believe it until i saw it first hand. and i mean see shit fly around the room and demonic voices and levitation and shit. Oh, and flies too.

    i mean even then i probably would believe it. id think i was in some kind of haunted house or something. So no, i dont buy it one bit.

    O wait, unless it was a family member. And it was totally unexpected/planned. Like i woke up in the middle of the night and my mom was possessed and looked like a demon and was levitating shit and talking in demonic tones and shit. Yeah, then id probably believe it :X
     
  3. ryupower

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    Me. I know of some people that were possessed. :eek:

    It's pretty freaky man...
     
  4. Colours

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    now i just cant take you seriously anymore.
     
  5. ryupower

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    Who'd ever tell you to do that? :p

    But now, for a change, SERIOUSLY, I saw some demonic stuff.
     
  6. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    Demonic possession does not involve split pea soup or spinning heads, nor does it involve mental illness.
     
  7. ryupower

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    Where'd Satan come from?

    She doesn't sound like a Christian, ( but yeah, it is Satan.)
     
  8. Oz!

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    From God, obviously :)
     
  9. ryupower

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    lol. thanks. :)

    but maybe I should redo that:

    Where'd Satan come from? -She doesn't sound like a Christian, ( but yeah, it is Satan.)
     
  10. Colours

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    if you really believe there is a monster that wants you to suffer eternally with him, you are beyond hope.

    I wish christians would just admit that hell and satan is simply the absence of God. THeres no fire, theres no eternal agony.
     
  11. 2cool

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    Yeah my Aunt isn't what you'd call a Christian. She's spiritual, certainly not an atheist, but she deosn't classify herself as any one religon. She's had a couple of experiences with ghosts throughout all the troubles in her life. I still don't see how a supernatural being like a poweful demon or Satan or whatever would have any trouble possessing people.
    One thing i"ve always wondered. If your sentenced to eternal agony, wouldn't you eventually get used to the pain?
     
  12. Colours

    Colours Senior Member

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    NO!!! RAWR, isnt that scary? better praise tha Lowed!
     
  13. ryupower

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    She's called a New Ager. ;)

    I was thinking about the pain thing as well, but the flames come up, burn you, skeleton is left, and then your body just recovers.
     
  14. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Possession??


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  15. IronGoth

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    In some religions they actually encourage it.

    Voudouisants, for example, become possessed by the spirits they intercede with. They believe Grand Met is too big and powerful and remote and aloof from us to talk to directly, so they trade and truck with various lwa such as Ghede, Ezrulie, etc.
     
  16. Sera Michele

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    Aren't christians possessed by the Holy Spirit?
     
  17. Colours

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    yeah, like when the apostles were possessed by the holy spirit they had flames above their heads.
     
  18. Zajko

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    In hebrew mythology as I understand it, Satan was an agent of God who walked around on Earth to report back on the activities of humankind. To make his job more interesting he would often set up roadblocks and temptations, what might now be called "sting operations". This is how he became known as the "Tempter"

    When the hebrew scriptures were reinterpreted and translated by the Nicean Christians, all the diverse agents and aspects of divinity were subsumed into either one "God" or one "Devil" depending on whether the Nicean Christians aproved or dissaproved. Thus the rich and diverse tapestry of divine will contained in the Hebrew Scriptures was distilled into a dualism of good vs. evil with Satan finding employment as the standard bearer for pure evil.

    It also might be hypothesized that when Jesus preached a God of Goodness and Love ("No one is good except God alone", "God is Love" etc.), an unintended consequence might have been the necessity to invent an independent agent of evil to explain certain imperfections in a world created by a purely benevolent deity. I actually have a lot of respect for the Old Testament concept of God, not always just and merciful (although he demands it of us) but whose personality includes the harshness and wrath encountered in real life.
     

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