Open letter to President Bush

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  1. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    I found this on another forum site that my daughter goes to....not sure if anyone had already posted it here.
    Michael Moore's open letter to the president



    Friday, September 2nd, 2005
    Vacation is Over... an open letter from Michael Moore to George W. Bush


    Friday, September 2nd, 2005

    Dear Mr. Bush:

    Any idea where all our helicopters are? It's Day 5 of Hurricane Katrina
    and thousands remain stranded in New Orleans and need to be airlifted.
    Where on earth could you have misplaced all our military choppers? Do
    you need help finding them? I once lost my car in a Sears parking lot.
    Man, was that a drag.

    Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
    really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
    like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
    begin with?

    Last Thursday I was in south Florida and sat outside while the eye of
    Hurricane Katrina passed over my head. It was only a Category 1 then
    but it was pretty nasty. Eleven people died and, as of today, there
    were still homes without power. That night the weatherman said this
    storm was on its way to New Orleans. That was Thursday! Did anybody
    tell you? I know you didn't want to interrupt your vacation and I know
    how you don't like to get bad news. Plus, you had fundraisers to go to
    and mothers of dead soldiers to ignore and smear. You sure showed her!

    I especially like how, the day after the hurricane, instead of flying
    to Louisiana, you flew to San Diego to party with your business peeps.
    Don't let people criticize you for this -- after all, the hurricane was
    over and what the heck could you do, put your finger in the dike?

    And don't listen to those who, in the coming days, will reveal how you
    specifically reduced the Army Corps of Engineers' budget for New
    Orleans this summer for the third year in a row. You just tell them
    that even if you hadn't cut the money to fix those levees, there
    weren't going to be any Army engineers to fix them anyway because you
    had a much more important construction job for them -- BUILDING
    DEMOCRACY IN IRAQ!

    On Day 3, when you finally left your vacation home, I have to say I was
    moved by how you had your Air Force One pilot descend from the clouds
    as you flew over New Orleans so you could catch a quick look of the
    disaster. Hey, I know you couldn't stop and grab a bullhorn and stand
    on some rubble and act like a commander in chief. Been there done that.

    There will be those who will try to politicize this tragedy and try to
    use it against you. Just have your people keep pointing that out.
    Respond to nothing. Even those pesky scientists who predicted this
    would happen because the water in the Gulf of Mexico is getting hotter
    and hotter making a storm like this inevitable. Ignore them and all
    their global warming Chicken Littles. There is nothing unusual about a
    hurricane that was so wide it would be like having one F-4 tornado that
    stretched from New York to Cleveland.

    No, Mr. Bush, you just stay the course. It's not your fault that 30
    percent of New Orleans lives in poverty or that tens of thousands had
    no transportation to get out of town. C'mon, they're black! I mean,
    it's not like this happened to Kennebunkport. Can you imagine leaving
    white people on their roofs for five days? Don't make me laugh! Race
    has nothing -- NOTHING -- to do with this!

    You hang in there, Mr. Bush. Just try to find a few of our Army
    helicopters and send them there. Pretend the people of New Orleans and
    the Gulf Coast are near Tikrit.

    Yours,

    Michael Moore
    MMFlint@aol.com
    www.MichaelMoore.com
     
  2. GoingHome

    GoingHome Further Within

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    another wonderfull segment from Mr. Moore!

    I only wish he'd replace Andy Rooney on 60 Minutes.
    no offense andy.
     
  3. random_spontaneosity

    random_spontaneosity Member

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    hehehe, that is bloody well said.
     
  4. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    How sad.. MM jumps onto the predictable and the unjustified band wagon of the masses.. keep swingin' with opinionated biased unfounded opinion of the 'common man'.. Heck don't do any real investigating heavens no.. this kind of crap [though with a slight point - nobodys perfect] is prety ridiculous .. MM you should have put the 'race issue' at the top of your agenda/letter.. thats a 'hum dinger'.
     
  5. Imagine17

    Imagine17 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    I don't see how anyone can shoot down much said in that letter at all. Bush DID stay on vacation after it hit, Bush DID NOT send in enough support even days after it happened. It is all the truth.
     
  6. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I understand there is a grain of truth within MM 'open letter' thats how he could even write this in the first place.. though given everything is falable it would not have been hard to consruct any kinda of letter of this kind.. whatever occured .


    Take this information for what it is worth and note how much came too pass..by investigating and posting the actual reality.. rather than some persons 'open letter'.. I am just concerned by MM past history of twisting information and taking elements out of context..and sometimes just making stuff up for conveniance of his own agenda [e.g 9/11 speaches cut and pasted together].

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9134533/
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9228086/?CM=050905_katrinaOnScene&CE=linkTopNews
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/30/AR2005083000945.html

    The actual response and timeline of the responses, has been hijacked and skewed by partys wishing to bad mouth the efforts of those involved..
    Nothing is perfect and holding a inquirey about the failures is though fruitless and will not really quieten anybodys opinion, it should highlight more clearly facts of the actual reality of the crisis management.. moreso than some person with a known agenda like MM.

    Hurricane hits Monday .. Bush comes back Tuesday.. and i would presume being fully aware and in contact with efforts on the ground in between [pointed out in one of the links].. Him being on 'vacation' is supposed to equate him not being aware or not starting anything towards the effort till he came back on Tuesday.. wich is nonsense.. Should he have been at 'home' and waited till the storm/hurricane passed and then gone on vacation ?.. maybe he should have been in new orleans filling sand bags on Sunday morning.. i apologise for being sarcastic, but the whole 'why on vacation' is a old tried and tested debacle of a point, noboby can really defend.. as it is a un winnable moral hurdle [damned on all sides by not being able to be in two places at once].
     
  7. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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  8. everybody fucked up......

    I mean come on, that simple

    bush should have responded sooner, the mayor shouldn't have fucked up, the gov. shouldn't have fucked up etc.

    but bush is the least sympathetic, and he should be the most accountable because he could have overriden almost everything anyone else did wrong

    that is why people blame bush

    that and people hate him already
     
  9. flor pequena

    flor pequena Member

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    Matthew perhaps you should go and live in America. You seem to be a big fan of Bush.

    How can anyone have any sympathy for Bush? At the very least he could have done a lot more.
     
  10. matthew

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    Writing a letter about asking Bush 'what went wrong' and can we have a inquirey into events [thats going to happen] .. is fair. Not some ranting letter, jumping on the band wagon of popular opinion .. with no regard to any truths.. MM is a ass because he just distorts, lies and just deciedes to leave out anything that is in anyway bothersome to his agenda.. Thats is all i was saying..

    Notice the elements he misses out, and injects his 'humour' instead.

    Do you think MM is a paragon of the truth ?... and 'no , but he means well' is giving this dude more credit than he deserves imho.

    It is not 'sympathy' it is getting to the truth..i appreciate more could have been done [though 'katrina' escalated in intensity quickly and at the last minute].. lots has been done and is being done [we should remember that] .

    e.g of some distortion:
    fiction:
    Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
    really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
    like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
    begin with?

    Reality:
    http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=1748
    http://www.ngb.army.mil/features/katrina/
     
  11. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    No Matt, that would be the Bush administration. Too busy playing arselicking apologist (and obviously too entrenched in ideological sycophantry) to keep up with repeatedly exposed reality, obviously.
     
  12. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    What do you think of Michael Moore ?.
     
  13. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Thanks [sarcasm] for just doing [to a degree] what i dislike about MM.. Forget everything else i say.. just pick out the point you wish to throw criticism at.

    I am not being a apologist:
    With out me pointing out something within hs letter and showing my point.. then it is not worth me saying anything about his letter [is it]. Show me if i am misguided about the part of the letter i highlighted [you seem to think i won't listen when in fact i will/and do].
     
  14. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    I think he's a satirist who has made some effort in his own way to bring certain aspects of this administration's roster of lies, secrecy, duplicities and treasons - otherwise well known to the relative minority who research such matters regularly - to the broader, more mentally slothful general public. Nothing more, nothing less.

    You however seem ever ready to side without question with all the (once again well known, ideologically-complicit) corporate media pundits who have routinely smeared him and misrepresented the points he has made to serve corporate media's ongoing complicity with abuses of Federal office.

    Since you never demonstrate any interest in checking the backgrounds and agendas of those you toss out as "proof", its unsurprising that you time and again miss the truth you claim to seek.
     
  15. matthew

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    Satirist ?? mm whatever... i have read and watched his output , when he is saying something like this it lets any valid points he makes down. This letter is the worst of him. innuendo, mis-representation the works.

    Don't start with all that.. keep it to ther point, show me that i am misguided [like i asked] .. Not the usual that you can trot out whenever you please, as pointed as you may think your being.. your not actually addressing what i said [in total].

    what is misguided about this:
    e.g of some distortion:
    fiction:
    Also, any idea where all our national guard soldiers are? We could
    really use them right now for the type of thing they signed up to do
    like helping with national disasters. How come they weren't there to
    begin with?

    Reality:
    http://www.ngb.army.mil/news/story.asp?id=1748
    http://www.ngb.army.mil/features/katrina/Today 10:50 AM



    Erm like you do.. bastions of ther truth your sources are.. i suppose you think. Anyway , don't wish to get in another pissing match with you....So believe what you want about how i interprete information. I aint never gonna change your mind.
     
  16. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Firstly those links wont open on my machine so for whatever inexplicable reason I cant see them to comment. I can however point out that the military as an institution is controlled and well documentedly so by the Pentagon whose history of lies and propaganda are quite empirically verifiable.

    I can also point out to you the fact that what Moore says is not a lie as the Guard has indeed been forced in massive numbers to serve in Iraq and afghanistan which was never their mandate in the first place. Youd do well to read more than truncated military spin to educate yourself on that score.

    If you find links that work ill be more than happy to comment on the articles in question. Else you might copy paste them for all to see here.
     
  17. Imagine17

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    Katrina hit sunday night into early monday morning. Bush stayed on vacation the whole day. A good leader would at least leave right away to try and coordinate something helpful.

    In the words of Bill Maher- It almost makes me miss the days when Bush only sat around for 7 minutes.
     
  18. matthew

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  19. IronGoth

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    Bush and Moore are BOTH liars.

    Anyone get a load of Babs Bush going on about how being in the superdome for days and getting raped and such was "good for em?"
     
  20. matthew

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    Can't say i have... i read she said this though .. [seems a bit like our Prince Phillip] a possibly well meaning idiot..

    Mrs. Bush, after touring the Astrodome complex in Houston on Monday, said: "What I'm hearing, which is sort of scary, is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality. And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this is working very well for them." She commented during a radio interview with the American Public Media program "Marketplace."
    McClellan, at the White House briefing, said: "I think she was making a personal observation on some of the comments that people were making that she was running into. ... But what we're focused on is helping these people who are in need."

    Asked if Bush agreed with his mother, McClellan said: "I think that the observation is based on someone or some people that were talking to her that were in need of a lot of assistance, people that have gone through a lot of trauma and been through a very difficult and trying time. And all of a sudden, they are now getting great help in the state of Texas from some of the shelters."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090701515.html

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-0509070253sep07,1,6154573.column?coll=chi-news-nav&ctrack=1&cset=true
     

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