EVP Is it fucking true?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by ScrewU2, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. ScrewU2

    ScrewU2 Member

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    Well is it how can it be I believe when you die you either jusrt cease to exist or get a blunt the size of a redwood and puff it in the clouds that last part is a joke
     
  2. Steeros

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    when you do die you better get blunts the size of a redwood any other heaven would be shit.

    and no evp is not true.
     
  3. annabegins

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    it has been proven many times that evp IS IN FACT TRUE. I am a TRUE BELEIVER because i have lived it. i lived in a haunted house and i would here talking and screaming and gun shots. and doors slamming., but they werent actually, it was just the sound. but most of evp is actually from PLACED MEMORIES. which is like a recording of life played back over and over and over. but that has nothing to do with what happens when you die, because a placed memory haunting ghosts or spirits or what nots cannot make contact with you, because its a reinactment. BUT there are other types of hauntings, and it usually has been related to a tragic death or unfinished business, where the spirit DOES try to get in touch with you and make contact. so, no one really knows what happens when you die. no one could. the fear of that is what has created religion. religion is a way for ppl to have relief that theyll be ok when their time is ended,
     
  4. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    EVP is pretty ludicrous, Theres an ok entry in the skeptics dictionary.

    http://skepdic.com/evp.html

    Why wouldn't a ghost have the will power to talk in a conscise method on blank tape, but thousands are able to 'channel' through background noise?

    The answer is it's background noise... you can hear lots of things... if you're inclined to belive in spooks, thats what you'll hear.

    I hear muffin recipeies in background static. Muffins kick ass. [​IMG]
     
  5. annabegins

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    i think it is true, becuase ive heard noises from spirits, or whatever they are, and if i can hear them in person, you could probably tape em.
     
  6. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Nothing personal. I just don't do the ghost thing. [​IMG]

    And I also think what I said is true, a person who belives in ghosts is much more likely to expeience this kinda thing then someone who doesn't.

    I've been wrong before though. [​IMG]
     
  7. skibadee

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    its blatently not true, if you seen a ghost or heard a ghost it is just you tripping out. i once saw my dad at the end of the bed as a ghost but i dont believe that it was actually him it was just me tripping out, ghosts and spirits are blatently not real.!!!!!!!
     
  8. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Well no. I think the idea that if there was an afterlife, (which I think is pretty absurd anyway) you'd have nothing better to do then sit around the place you died and spook people to be crazy.
     
  9. skibadee

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    exactly if you have an afterlife your not gonna be turned into a ghost that would be shit as fuck, god can think of better things to do with dead people than that.
     
  10. Burn

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    What we want the afterlife to be isn't necessarily what it is, however, your doubt with EVP's holds ground.


    There are a lot of cases where it does indeed sound like background noise, muffled static that sounds like a word, etc. However there are recordings that stand out rather boldly, in which no variables accounted for during the time of recording could have created. EVP's with clear, precise voices, as if you were listening to someone actually speaking into the microphone. Not snippets, not noises, but pretty much audible words and voices. For example: A girl singing, a voice speaking a clear sentence, etc. Little white noise fluff is nothing, but there are some things that bring to question the possibility of EVP's being real.

    Okay, so some are unexplainable and cannot be brushed off. But does that make them real ghosts? Not necessarily. They're -something-, no? How does one take into account seeing the 'spirit' of someone who've they have never heard of, seen or met before, yet being able to clearly explain their appearance. (Ex... Seeing the spirit of a boy with glasses and a black coat. Later on the witness discovers that she had seen a young boy who had died in that place 200 years ago, and coincidentally finds a picture of him with glasses and a black coat.)

    Doesn't necessarily mean there's a ghost....But it's -something-. That cannot be denied. Okay, so what is it?

    Science has recently been diving a bit into explaining the supernatural. Ever hear of electromagnetic waves? They're everywhere. We give them off from computers, cell phones, electric lines, etc. While these insivible waves may be everywhere, in some spots they are more heavily concentrated. Even in spots around the house. We know our brains use these waves as well, and receive them. There is a theory (going along with psychic abilities) that we are able to project our thoughts, our brain patterns, through electromagnetic energy. Therefore...

    It's possible that we can leave an imprint on a place. A recording, a broken record. A moment in time, a collection of energy we've given off in a general area. Since our brains can pick up electromagnetic energy... We 'play back' these recordings, these imprints, echoes of an individual who was once there.

    Concentrated amounts of electromagnetic energy can also induce effects on an individual such as experiencing sensations, touch, feeling like someone else is in the room - even shadowy figures.

    So, ghosts may very well just be an echo in time.
     
  11. annabegins

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    i agree. it has been a proven fact. because, i have been able to describe an entire murder reinactment and describe all members of the household, and i never knew anything of any murder before , cause it happened along time ago.
     
  12. mascotucorazon956

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    conducted my own experiment with some friends at a not too old house with a paper hexagram (666) and a candle in it. during the 'amatuer seance', something in the room adjacent slammed or fell hard and no one had gone past the room we were in the whole day. later on after reviewing the tape, we all verified a little girl's voice a little after the recorded 'bang'. funny thing is, nothing happened at an abandoned house or a cemetary

    so yeah man

    have you heard the one of the old man who loathes cigarette smokers?
    its one of the most clear n well documented ones easily found on the web
     
  13. StonerBill

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    actually none of that electromagnietic stuff that was said make sense, does the poster know what electromagnetic waves are? if they did, they would know that you cannot use the EMW's from your brain to turn objects into isotopes or radio transmitters. at least not in a way taht would last 5 seconds let alone 200 years
     
  14. Burn

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    Ah, but studies have shown that electromagnetic energy affects the brain, creating ghost-like experiences with test subjects in laboratories. There was even a Discover Channel show about it. There's merely a connection between that partially electronic energy that is related to electronic equipment. It's the link, so to speak. You're right, it probably doesn't totally explain microphone recordings, perhaps that is another mystery of the human brain... But nevertheless, EMW waves play a key role in paranormal experiences... If I find out more I'll post it. Anyone else is of course welcome to as well.
     
  15. randy

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    hum interesting


    you know what- i live in an old nursing home building, im sitting in it right now, 25 room building, i have no idea who or how many ppl may have died in here since about from the 40s to the late 60s when it was close but i have never experienced any odd or unusual experience in here ever, ive been here since day one, my great grandpa bought this building in 74- before i even existed, ive lived in it about 14 years now, maybe 15, maybe more, im unsure now, i dont know of any other building anywhere near here that could possibly have any more of a chance of being "haunted" or anything like such than right here in this one,


    so i can say i dont believe in paranormal or ghosts or any of that stuff

    or black cats, or walking under ladders, or any other funny stuff

    heh

    thought id toss that out there :p

    good thread :p

    good luck
     

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