run out of gas?

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by forest420, Sep 7, 2005.

  1. forest420

    forest420 Senior Member

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    can we run out of natural gas or gasoline if theres any difference? like the gas we use for our cars.
     
  2. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    If you google 'peak oil', you'll see a lot about it.

    It's usually pretty poorly researched, and only recognises existing oil fields as our only source of oil... this ignores the fact that we've been able to get oil about 6 times deeper then we could in the 80's.

    A hydrogen economys probably a half century away though, but if there were a shortage in the meantime, gasonline can be refined from syntheitc sources.

    http://www.fortune.com/fortune/smallbusiness/articles/0,15114,1018747,00.html
     
  3. MikeE

    MikeE Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Hydrogen is not a power source. It is a storage and transportation system. The best vision for hydorgen is that it is created from solar power.

    That fifty year figure is how long it will take to replace gas stations with H2 stations.

    "gasoline can be refined from synthetic sources"?? "Synthetic sources" sounds petroleum based.
     
  4. the turkey fuel is cool.... icky, not vegetarian (though in the long run neither are fossil fuels, but those are far enough removed that veggies don't care) but wicked cool
     
  5. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    As I understand it, deep recovery techniques are good towards providing for plastics, road construction etc... because it's of a different consistency. Towards the ends of refinement for fuel the costs go up and the oil companies aren't willing to pay that as of yet. That's basicly what an oil co geologist tried to explain to me.
     
  6. longhaircountryboy

    longhaircountryboy Banned

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    whats fucked up tho,my neighbors bro-in-law works for an oil company out west somewhere..he claims every so often they just dump & burn a couple thousand gallons.only reason i could think of would be price control
     
  7. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    crude quality or contamination is another possiblity.
    Forest, Natural gas is what heat homes not on electric or fuel oil.
    Natural gas is in every petroleum well and sometimes is simply vented (burned) off f transportation costs do not make a particular field cost-effective.
    Many electric plants are NG fired or combinations with coal and NG.
    Peak Oil theory says we are at or just past the top of a Bell curve of oil supply worldwide.
    Interesting stuff and if they are one fourth right, enough of a call to get onto alternative fuels and alternative transportation.
     
  8. longhaircountryboy

    longhaircountryboy Banned

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    personally,I'm thinking of building a still & running our vehicles on a 85/15 % mix of alcohol & gas.same thing alot of race cars use
     
  9. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    any problems/modifications needed for the hoses?
    I've heard (but not investigated) that too high and ethanol (alcohol) concentration id hard on the hoses as in the degrade faster.
    Anyone have facts on this?
     
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