I picked up 12g of a psychedelic in a Headshop, it was called algi or algai I believe. I'm a bit skeptical as this stuff has survived the re-classification of drug laws, so I'm not eevn sure if it will work. A sign in the shop said to boil it water and eat the rest! I don't want to ruin it by doing stuff I'm unsure of. It is very dry, almost looks like tree bark. I know I sound ignorant, but I'm desperate ever since those Fascists in Government banned unprepared shrooms for no good reason! Any help would be greatly appreciated edit. after looking at my spelling, it probably is called algae, which rings a bell.
i know of no psychoactive algae-like organisms, and have no idea what it may be. however, there are a number of plants with high concentrations of various types of drugs in the bark, so if you say it looks like bark it may well be. how was it packaged and what does the package say? what other information can you give us? this is way, way too vague for anyone to help you, i'm afraid. though maybe someone else from the uk knows. one thing i'm thinking (maybe, and its a long shot) is a mispronunciation of yage being heard as something along the lines of algae? thats a REAL stretch though, and it would depend on not only the worker not understanding the slightest thing about pronouncing spanish words and you also mishearing him somewhat... fraid i can't help you really, though. if it is yage than it contains MAO inhibiting drugs such as harmaline and harmine, and may be very very dangerous depending on what you've eaten recently.
Thanks for the reply! I found out that they are Fly Agaric mushrooms. From what I've read, they need to be drank. So would I just put them in a cup and fill it with boiled water, or do the mushrooms need any adjustments? Thanks again for taking the time to reply!
aha. fly agaric most people don't use, and not without good reason. it's pretty toxic in high doses, and far less pleasurable (for most people) than psilocybian mushrooms. you don't necessarily have to make a tea with this particular mushroom, many people say some of the more pleasurable effects can actually be reached by smoking it, particularly the red outer layer of the cap, i think. i haven't tried this substance and don't plan to anytime soon, but i have heard good things about smoking it with some cannabis. or head over to erowid and research dosage and traditional usage and read a few trip reports, but remember that this isn't a widely used drug anywhere except places like siberia, and that most sources will list the mushroom as a toxic rather than a psychoactive mushroom.
interesting tidbit: amanita muscaria was widely used by shamans among the siberians and the native groups that lived in what is now alaska. this was, for some peoples, the only intoxicant known, and prized very highly for its use in religious settings. in fact, so important was it that eventually someone discovered that the active constituents actually pass through the body relatively unaltered, and you could get two people to trip off of one dose if the second person was willing to drink the urine of the first. sometimes several people would experience one dose of mushrooms this way... you can file this under things you never really wanted to know about...
I heard that the peoples in the laplands would feed it to their reindeer and then drink the rudolph pee, and this was the origion of the flying reindeer and santa claus.
the reindeer ate it of their own accord, and it may have been what first sparked the idea for them to eat it themselves. afaik they followed the reindeer much like many of the nomadic north american peoples followed the bison; they were not tame and the humans were in no position to "feed" them anything. i may quite easily be wrong though. however, these mushrooms DO cause some deliriant type effects, they DO appear to generally need a living evergreen nearby to grow, and the reindeer and people both ingested them. i'd say that there is some kind of connection most likely, but not specifically what you said. christians took parts of all different kinds of faiths and twisted it around and integrated it into their traditions in order to be more suitable to "pagans" and perhaps putting brightly colored "presents" under the tree and magic reindeer stories were a way to associate foreign ideas into christian tradition without directly involving it in the christian mythology and thereby altering the actual teachings of the church...
I smoked two pipes of it (with weed) and ate the rest, nothing at all happened. I even went to sleep about three hours after taking them. I feared the worst when my hands didn't look remotely interesting after an hour or two. Any ideas where I went wrong? Thanks again for all the info!
first off you dont smoke it secound you need to eat about 5-10 grams for common effects i suggest you look them up on erowid so you sctuly know what you takeing
That's why I smoked it. I consumed a total of 12.5g, about 8g of which I ate. Surely that should have been enough to keep me awake longer than a few hours at least? About 4g went into boiled water with a spoonful of sugar. The other 0.5g I smoked in a pipe with a 50:50 ratio of cannabis.
well, i really haven't any idea, and i don't know much about this particular mushroom, but i can throw out what seem to me to be possibly reasonable explanations.... - the product was something else entirely and misrepresented or mislabelled. i didnt see it and don't know what it looked like, apart from you describing it as looking like bark. dried amanita muscaria mushrooms -should- look something like this: or this if they're chopped: -i don't know how the chemicals work in the mushroom, but they are not typical psychedelics. i believe i have heard that you actually SHOULD heat dry these mushrooms, unlike psilocybian mushroom species, to help instigate some chemical reactions to change unwanted toxins into the desired psychoactive substances (muscimol i think). even if they were properly identified as amanita muscaria (fly agaric) mushrooms, perhaps if they were not properly prepared they could have been useless. however, this wouldn't explain a complete lack of effects, you'd probably just get sick. - i don't know the shelf life of the substances in the mushrooms. assuming they're what you were told and they were properly dried, then perhaps if they're very old they could go bad. - they are not usually legal to sell for human consumption, however i've seen amanita extracts for sale online. since they are not sold for you to ingest them, they don't necessarily have to contain all the chemicals they normally would. perhaps the muscimol or whatever was extracted out and the dried flesh sold, void of any psychoactive substances. such is sometimes the case with plain salvia divinorum leaf in some instances, i've been told. -perhaps you are particularly resistant to the effects of amanita muscaria naturally or are taking some medication that for some reason or other may lessen or eliminate it's effect. since this isn't a regular tryptamine or phenelthylamine, things like SSRIs may or may not supress the effects. i dont really know. i do have a friend that can trip off of acid but not mushrooms, however; so perhaps this is just an instance of you being "immune" to a particular substance? at any rate, i dont really know, but these all might potentially be the case. someone more familiar with the effects and chemistry of this substance may be able to better help. but the fact that you described it as looking like bark and the fact that it had no positive OR negative effect on you, and topping it off with the fact that at first you were told it was algae....i'd say most likely the first possibility that i listed is what really happened...
