C-Section Question

my baby is in the transverse position, and my doctor told me that if the baby does not turn I will have to ave a c-section. My question is, when do they schedual c sections? A few weeks before??? Days???

 

Well, an external Version should certainly be tried. That is where the baby is turned, manually. A GOOD OB or midwife has about a 90% success rate with this. And if they do it right, and with an ultra sound, there is virtually NO threat to the placenta (sadly, doctors who are ignorant of external version will tell you "We can't do that. It'll rip the placenta." When in actuality, they just never bothered to learn how.)

How far a long are you? Babies can turn IN labor.

My doc does external version, as well as deliver vaginal breeches, and if he does schedule a section for an other reason he ALWAYS checks the baby's lungs with an amnio beforehand.

I'd get a second opinion, as OFTEN transverse babies are even easier to turn manually than breech births. See someone at a good big teaching hospital. OR a Midwife. They can and will do external version. If your doctor claims he can't do it, see someone else.

 

I am about 35 weeks along. My doctor said the baby can still turn, but I just want to be ready for anything. The only thing he has really told me is that if the baby does not turn, we will have to do a c section. He never said anything about trying to turn the baby by hand. I hope he's not just being lazy. It kinda scares me.

 

get some homeopathic pulsatilla, 6X, take 1 every 4 hours until baby turns. Do the breech tilt excercise to get baby up and out of the pelvis. Get an iron board and put one end on the couch, twice a day with your hips higher for 20 minutes each time. Find a chiropractor who can do the webster techique, it helps align the pelvis and allows the baby to fit.
Has this baby always been transverse? Usually, an external version is best done around 32-34 weeks, definately before 36-37, when the baby is bigger there's less room and baby is less willing to turn. If your doctor does not know how to do a version, don't have him do it. OB versions are much less likely to succeed than when a midwife does it. Can you find a midwife to help you turn the baby?
Every evening or morning, spend some quality time wih your baby. Yes, the baby inside. Take a nice relaxing bath, light some candles, play some soothing music, and talk to your baby. Tell him it's time to turn head down, that everything is okay, that you are waiting for him and love him. Stroke your belly gently while talking to him. (My apologies to your baby if she's a girl!)

 

Fuck c sections. Fuck doctors and nurses and midwives who say CUT ER UP! Talk to a midwife to gives different suggestions, suach as Maggie Sugar apparently or fellow mothers who have listened to their intuitions and hearts and birthed without it, even for breech births. Come on, you gotta love your body more than that. Keep your body WHOLE and COMPLETE.

Blessings
Francine

 

Transverse is an unusual presentation and one that baby is not easily moved from. It is impossible to vaginally birth a baby if he is in transverse lie. Sometimes c-births are necessary to save both mama and/or baby's life.
A vaginal birth is always preferable to a c-birth, but sometimes the risks outweight the benefits and a c-birth is needed, and transverse lie is one of those situations where it is safer to birth surgically.
It is important you make every effort to get your babe to turn. C-section is a major abdominal surgery, and recovery is longer than with a natural vaginal birth. There are also risks, as in every surgery, including bleeding, lacerations to bladder and baby, infection at incision site, reactions to anesthesia, prolonged recovery, numbness or pain at incision site for months or years, more difficult to establish breastfeeding (not impossible, more challenging). Blood loss is always twice as much after a c-birth.
Every effort should be made to turn your baby to head down. However, if you do not succeed in getting your baby to turn, (please follow my suggestions above, I am a midwife and have turned several babies using one or a combination of those above) go into labour before the c-section. The hormones of labour stimulate the baby's hormones needed for adjusting to outside life. C-birthed babies who have had some labour have less breathing difficulties during the neonatal period than scheduled c-birthed babies who have never experienced labour.

 

i agree, if i hadnt had a c-section, me and my baby would have died as well. and i desperately wanted to have a vaginal birth.

and you DO bleed longer, i bled for a little over 6 weeks. its extremely painful. afterwards the area is numb cause they cut your nerves. and the recovery sucks bad. get that baby turned if you can, but if not, it doesnt make you any less of a mother if they have to cut the baby out. but you just miss out on some of the moments that vaginal birth mothers get to experience.

 

Maybe some fear of birth/pain prevents the child from turning. Everything can be cured and taken care of internally, through natural medicine and/or changing mindsets. And if not, it was meant to be.

Namaste (insults weren't meant to be there, just get fiery sometimes and blow some smoke)
Francine

 

If it weren't for c-section, I wouldn't have a baby or a wife right now. By the way, they say bumpy car rides will induce labor, but there are extremes...

 

I agree 100%! Even though I did have to have sections, I labored with my children, and pushed with the first two. I mentioned my OB because he does do versions and vaginal breeches, (but like Brighid said, a midwife is more likely to be trained to do these procedures) I didn't have my sections due to transverse or breech babies (A baby CAN be born breech,vaginally, it is impossible for a transverse baby to be born vaginally, if they don't turn or are turned, there is no way for a shoulder to get out first and safely deliver the rest of the baby.)

I have an android pelvis (no, I'm not a robot, it is a pelvis similar to a man's, in my case, there wasn't enough room for a normal size baby to fit, which is VERY rare, occording to my OB and several midwives. I labored for 54 hours and pushed for more than 3 and no baby came out, same with the next baby. The next two were planned, but I HAD labored some, so it helped the baby prepare for birth.)

 

I am starting to get freaked out about the whole thing. My baby has been breech since they did my Ultra Sound at 20 weeks. As of last Tuesday he still was. I can tell he is still breech when he moves around.
My daughter was not breech before she was born, but she was hard to push out. I am scared of both a vaginal labor and a c-section.
I go back to the doctor next Tuesday, and if he continues to act like it's no big deal, then I'm going to try to find a Midwife to do it. The only thing is, I am on Medicaid, and I'm not sure what my options are. This whole thing is freaking me out! I don't even know if they are going to do another Ultra Sound.

 

Midwives are paid the same as doctors are, and you insurance should cover the costs just the same

 

In most parts of the US, midwives make considerable less than MDs. When I had my first baby (in 1986) our OB charged $2,500 for "care" and more for a high risk pregnancy and c section. At that time, the midwives I knew were making about $800.00 for an entire pregnancy and vaginal delivery. The cost differences have not changed in the last 19 years, although I didn't look at midwife prices for my last two.

My last pregnancy cost more than $20,000, ($850 JUST for my OBs surgical services during the section alone) I don't know any midwives making anywhere near that. I wish they were!

And, sadly, there are still many insurance companies and some forms of Medicare which will not pay for midwives. Our insurance just started paying for midwife deliveries about 8 years ago. Before that, the midwives who worked with my doctor were just paid as nurses and were not allowed to deliver the babies, according to the insurance company.

 

Does anyone have any idea how long you have to wait after you have a baby to get your tubes tied? I know some hospitals do it right after you have a baby, but mine wont do it because of religious reasons. I would have to go to another hospital to have it done. I would have my baby at the hospital that will do it right after, but I am not fond of how they deliver babys at that hospital. The reason I'm asking is because soon after I have my baby, I am going to lose my insurance,and I want to get it done before that.

 

Yes, I do recall a case of toxemia being cured naturally. Medicine has developed the way it has because people by and large have forgotten and the knowledge has been displaced on just how to take care of one's self, Soul and Body. I think you misread alot of what was said in my short post as well, I will reiterate the last part, it was meant to be for maybe your future ancestors will learn the lesson the experience will have presented. Let us both intend that into the future, no one will experience pain, decay, and death during their lifes time.

Namaste
Francine

 

And as I stated, Crazystarr admitted herself to having a fear of pain/childbirth, hmmm....

 

Crazystarr, if you really want to heal, first you must release any fears and stresses you are having. If you do not like hospital births, has a home birth gone through your mind? If you firmly ground, breathe deep, and go through every one of your fears and transmute them into trancendance and use that to empower yourself, watch that (or even feel) that baby turn inside of you like nothing, like a miracle had just happened. I've seen it before, I have also seen women give birth to breech babies, if that is any consolation.

Namaste
Francine

 

Is your baby breech or transverse? Two totally different positions.
Where do you live?

 

I am here to testify that I do not even come close to making what an OB makes! I work out of love for what I do. Some states midwifery is illegal, some states midwives cannot accept insurance reimursement, and some states, like mine, we can accept medicaid and insurance, but we get paid much less than a hospital birth.

 

Brighid, My baby is transverse. And I live in Ohio.