astral projection

I usually have enough trouble just trying to fall asleep. How can you get your body to fall asleep when you are focusing on staying conscience?

 

hehe, takes a bit of practise

 

u gotta let your mind shut down, but try to just keep a tiny part of your mind switched on, like an eye. dont move your mind, just let it fall asleep but watch it with the eye. does that make sence? thats how i do it.

 

itll probably easier if you have trouble falling asleep...

let if you ae staying awake really late and not sleeping, therell be a point when your body just zonks, and switches off for the night... if you can 'stay awake' with your mind, while your body finally just crashes,[becuase it has to at some point] then you can watch what happens when your asleep.

like observe very closely your transition into sleep, and as you 'nod off' try to let it happen whilst spying, like a detective on what happens next...
imagine you are hiding, and you ae trying to decieve somebody [your body!] that you are not really there, whislt watching them.
So ry to detatch from your body as it goes to sleep, and spy on it, whithout it noticing,
le the body go, and encourage it to sleep, while you 'take a step back' and secretly. mishevously, stay awake subtely.
a delicate operation but very easily acheived after a few nights of practice.
lay on your back too and just let your thoughts and body relax ridiculously much, so that dreams come easily and fluidly.

imagine that nothing matters one bit, and nothing at all is real.

important to go with the feelngs of the experience, to trust your instincts and when the wired stuff starts to happen you can just go with it and enjoy for instance, turning into white vapour and passing through walls.

im pretty sure these experinces are SUBTLE. this means theres not really a blaring sign, saying 'welcome to sleep paralysis, you are the 7billionth visitor!, conratulations!'

so the fellings and experiences you have are subtle, but truly amazing and literally out of this world!

 

yeah, what matey up there says about just relaxing and nothing matters, just be open to all the sensations and go with the flow.
when ive felt sleep paralysis come on if feels like a wave of electricity sweeping thru my body. it wasnt subtle though. but it was good. same time i could hear a loud wind in my room too. i dunno what that is but alot of people have reported the same thing.

 

i never said it wasn't real and never said it was drug induced. i said it was an alternate state of consciousness, which it most obviously is. an alternate form of perceiving and dealing with "normal" reality.

i think you entirely misunderstood what i said and probably part of that is having no idea how i see the connection or what my opinion on some psychedelic states is

 

hello nesta... sorry if you thought i was reffering specifiacally to your post... i wasnt really. something in it sprked a thought though in my mind... that i might sound crazy to some people, and i should just exaplin that to me, they are real..


exactly like you said... an alterante sate of conciousness.


its nice to know you're out there , if you know what i mean.. a similar acceptance of CRAZY TRIPS!

 

cool stuff! Do you get subtleer layers though???

i've had non subtle experiences, but they were mainly horrifying ones...like being forced, or taken, on journeys to places where dead people were struglling to find the light... erggghhh....and they fking touched me and grabbed me physically, somehow...

But the subtle ones are more fun and free, like im just being me, floating around and exploring.

how do you know when its your spirit adventuring at night?, or when its you being pestered by other spirits???

 

does anyone else get the vibrations much???
they shit the life out of me when i first started havin em, but over time i got used to em and aint scared of em no more. still not pleasant though.

 

Like qwhen it feels like you're being shaken like a sheet?

or hear musical screaming in ur ears?

I know what you mean.. like a rumbling shaking air all over , i think thats when i 'turn into' spirit and leave the body, the i camn go and do stuff like take al look around differnet realsm.. what i mean by relams, is diifernt states of consciousness.

its like the state im in.. [as a spirit floating about] becomes real... and the sleeping body of me...is more like a dream.

as in.. two realities, one with the body.. one with the spirit, and when in one of them..the other one seems like a dream...and a far away place.

i havet had the guts to go that far when im 'out' yet becuase i dont wan to lose/forget my bdy and all the thingsa i value to do with it.. ie...my life and friends...

but i kind of wander around my room, go out the window or downstairs..through the walls like!!! which isnt bad!!!

the thing is though.. in that state... things progress rapidly..like speeded up evolution.. time ceases to exist..and dimensions are etheral..i guess is the way id describe it..

to be honist i can tel that the kind of things i do when mi aslepp have got potential to do rteally wacky things.. but i juts dont know how far i wanna go!!
well this post has been pretty deep and my head is starting to spin

 

The earth is flat.

 

I do believe that there is an alternate state of mind, but I also believe this all stems from the subconscience. The idea that this "astral plane" is an actual location that is similar for all people where people can meet with other people sounds unrealistic to me. Then again, if I ever achieve this lucidity I will probably have a different idea on the subject. Has anyone ever tried to meet in the astral plane and succeeded?

 

yeah!!!! loads of times!

i may sound real loony now, but ive met my friend there and had a chat like normal. she rang me the next day to say.. hey it was amazing to see you last night! she was in france at the time..

all we did was say hi, and laugh and great to see you!

its also conciousnnes... alternate states.. if i with someone else.. who i can tell is 'liek me' in the way i think.. then we can both se things differntly...dream together in differnet ways.. there are layers to consciousness, and im pretty sure there are types of definable places, for instance, we re in a dense vibration right now...human blood and bones...

but ive also experienced myself as varied vibrations...as fire, or air, black space, or just warmth... what i mean by this is that the sensations change.. the body is forgotten but still 'ticking away' while the mind / soul whatver it is...transforms and experiences differnt states.

it makes perfect sense becuase what i am..is not just this body.. im made of the same stuff that the stars and universe is made of.. so thats what iam.. the same thing.. its a metter of choosing which part of the universe you want to experience..and if you go with the vibrations, you can change your vibrations...and be...differnt ones for a while.. thats what i experience anyway...you knwo.. dont trust me i might be mad