Ok I'm going to attempt to explain what just happened about an hour ago, I apologize for any spelling or grammer errors as the effects i'm experienced still haven't quite worn off yet. The following is an experience, that I just dubbed 'Cannabis Breakthrough to the Source' Background Info. Date: September 9th 2005 Current Time: 12:00pm Dose: Cannabis: Grapefruit Skunk, high potency sativa/indica hybrid Tolerance To Type of Dose: Low Previous Use of dose: One week prior Time of Dose: 11:00pm Dose Method: vaporizer Age: 18 Gender: Male -Experienced cannabis user, has experimented with psylocybin mushrooms and salvia divinorum. has recently been attempting to reach deep meditative states with the aid of such psychedelics. Purpose: To reach a deep meditative state using cannabis Set: Glad to be off school for the weekend, happy about completed homework, and opportunity to embark on this spiritual journey. Setting: My basement room on a friday night, lights off, lying on bed. After effects noticed include: dry mouth, itchy eyes, muscle tension/cramps, blurry vision. All after effects are subsided now, left feeling tired and mentally fatigued. About an hour ago (11:00) with the purpose of attempting to see if I could reach deeper medetative states with the aid of cannabis. I loaded a bowl in my vaporizer and smoked it while lying in bed. I turned out the lights and turned on my head phones with the song 'Northern Lights- by Smith and Pledger' playing. I began inhaling and exhaling deeply while pressing my closed eyes gently back in their sockets (i've learned this is a way to initiate visual patterning behind closed eyes. I began to feel the effects of the drug getting progressivly stronger synchronized wth the song, as the patterning behind my eyelids changed from two dimensional blob-like patterning to full on three dimensional visions. I will attempt to describe what I saw and felt during this period, but it is difficult, as the experience was insanly surreal: It began with me out sitting in a park watching the Auroura Borealis (northern lights) change color in the starry night sky, I then started to leave my body. I watched my self making the most obsurd gestures (I was nodding my head back and forth, my hands were moving up and down, and my body was moving fluidly like a river over rocks). The world around me was completly transformed into some kind of spiritual landscape. I suddenly realized that 'I' had become the northern lights, and my movement was governed by the music and the movments of my body. All I can remember about how the body high felt at this point is this phrase: two legs become one, dragging along the clouds. ...(I think this was my minds attempt to gain a perception of reality again, which is why I remember it) My vision snapped back to watching my body again, this time I was shape shifting into very surreal alien beings, every second I would take on a new shape. The body high at this point felt like I was becoming each of those beings. Keep in mind this whole time I was still breathing deeply and pressing my closed eyes back gently. This is where the deepest, most spiritual part of the experience took place. A white ring suddenly formed in the center of my vision. It moved back and forth for a moment and then started twisting sideways in a spiral like motion (as to create a portal). This portal held some sort of sacred significance which was beyond my understanding. I decided to enter this portal and I liquifiyed as I was made contact with it. I was washed over with the force of 'all-awareness', I realized that all of reality is merly energy, I had become the 'source' energy, meaning that everything in existence (from the farthest planet in an infinate universe, to a single thought of a human being) would flow through me, and I would therefore become aware of its presence (its impossible to descirbe what I felt) I had basically become an all-knowing all-seeing 'god force'. I reached the end of the portal and my vision began to change to very intense two dimensional fractal patterning, in which the body high felt strong, but managable. It was at this point I let go of my eyes and began to breath normally. I realized I had come back to reality, and was experiencing a very peaceful happy feeling, as well as some light, transparent, two dimensional fractals in my field of vision. I looked at my clock and realized the 15 minutes had passed, the only song I remember out of the 2 or 3 that played was the first one (northern lights- smith and pledger). I turned on my light, turned on my comp and 45 minutes later started typing this. I spent a few minutes comprehending what happened. Was this a continuation of my first salvia trip (the source)? Had I actually reached the source this time and experienced being (unbeing) and 'god force'? This experience was a very enlightening one indeed, and leaves me in a state of well being knowing that I had reached the source successfully, having experienced god force. So im sitting here wondering what the hell just happened. I've ruled out 3 possibilitys. -the weed i smoked was laced with something like DMT or some kind of RC -I reached a very deep metitative state (which was my aim in the first place) -I just got really high and went over my limit with high potency weed -laced with salvia some how? (this felt very similar to a salvia trip) Thoughts? Ideas? Opinions? After correcting my grammer and spelling tomorow, I plan to submit this Erowid when I get the time. Link to Experience report of The Source: My First Salvia Trip. http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=101486
yeah i know its long to read, and its a little far fetched, but its by far the most bizzare thing i've ever experienced on weed...it would be cool to get some opinions though
Well, it is POSSIBLE (but since you seem to know what you're talking about, I'd say highly unlikely) that it was laced with an anasthesic dissassociative like PCP or Ketamine. Other than that, I want to share two brief experiences with you that I believe you will find helpful in figuring out what happened: (1) Once, smoking cannabis alone (white rhino, extremely potent), a friend and I packed HALF of a bowl into a pipe, and we both got two hits from it. 15 minutes later, I was in my friend's attic, ripped out of my mind. I was laying on his bed, unable to see reality, instead visualizing all kinds of fractal patterns, listening to the Cure, and for TWO HOURS I was UNABLE to move, sleep, or do ANYTHING different, so I layed there, conscious, listening to my friend and his sister talk and argue and discuss things, until they finally grabbed me and shook me out of it. (2) At college, after I just smoked a hefty amount of Herb, I found myself back in the fractal pattern state, and I noticed that I was swaying around in a circle; after that, the fractals started to melt around in a circle, and I could "feel" the circle that my head was taking, and suddenly, it seemed VERY reminiscent of a salvia trip, and I felt the fabric of reality get torn away, very much like on Salvia. Based on research I've done, Salvia is a highly selective kappa opioid receptor, and affects some of the same receptors that cannabis does. I've noticed several times that cannabis can feel very much like Salvia (though it doesn't feel like that often), so it doesn't surprise me that you feel like you had a Salvia experience. I can't pin down for certain what exactly happened to you, but I hope that this information leads you to the knowledge you are seeking. =)
very helpful thank you, I talked to my supplier today, and he told me that the weed was very potent, but wasnt laced with anything. needless to say it was one of the most spiritual experiences i've ever had any psychoactive substance...the experience itself made me far more interested with exploring my mind through the use of psychedelics.
Thats awsome. Only time I've had an experience like that I wasn't on any drugs... I went with my mom a few years ago to a one night course on meeting our spirit guides. Yeah, I know, wishy washy new agey crap, but whatever. It was a guided meditation, and the lady leading it basicly told us what was going on, like "You enter a feild and there on a rock is your animal companion" and there, sure enough, was a hawk. Then the hawk picked me up and we went flying over the countryside. Even though it was guided, eveyone had pretty varied experiences with it. The whole meditation was a lot longer and more complicated than that, that was just a small sample =P I dont know if the entities I met were actually my spirit guides or a figment of my imagination spured on by the woman's suggestions, but either way it was fucking cool. When you say you pressed your eyes back, do you mean you pushed on them with your fingers or turned your eyes as far back as you could? Thats a pretty cool experience though, hope you can reach those levels again, as I hope to reach them some time myself.
thats awesome, i wish i had something like that around where i live. and to your question i pressed my eyes back by closing my eyelids, then pressing back on my eyes gently with my fingers, and massaging in circular motions (not so much that it hurts, but so that you notice the pressure on your eyes) I've found that its a great way to initiate a visionary state, (you can even notice it when your sober...go ahead, try it, you should notice the swirling patterns behind your eyes after about 1 minute or less)
I used to push on my eyes to see shit when I was a little kid, then I got glasses and for a little while convinced myself that that was the reason why my eyes sucked =P The meditation was just at the local community college. I'm sure you can find some stuff along that idea around you.
Get a vaporizer, like the man said above. Much less smell, and you can take bigger-than-life hits, because there's no smoke. Dig it.
I've gotten really tripped out on weed before. Often times I feel mushroom trips returning to me, and as was said before, now that I'm more experienced with salvia, now when I get high just thinking about that state of mind when I was on salvia starts bringing it back. Also, whenever I get high and go to sleep I very often get vestibular movement, which is the start of an OBE. I probably fall asleep before it actually happens, but it's cool nonetheless.