SAD WORD ON SAM..from TEEPI

Just wanted to stop in for a moment to pass this on...

Sam won't be here much longer.
I have been in touch with her since she left, we talk on the phone and e-mail each other.
She let me know in Jne that she was sick.

I called today and talked with Ken (her husband) and she just isn't up to being on the phone anymore.

She has cancer that has mastasized all through her lungs, and on into other organs now.

She is at home and has health care workers who come and tend to her. She will be home till the end.

I do not give out e-mail addys or phone numbers but if anyone wants to send on words,thoughts good byes...you can still PM me here. If you would like to send a card I will give you my adress and you can mail them here and I will forward.

I know some of you loved Sam and miss her and I thought it was time to share this.
She had asked me when she left to contact a couple of you, but she was pretty private about this.
But her soul, as all our souls, puts the EGO aside and rejoices in our oneness.

I miss all of you and want to thank you for all your sentiments in my thread and all your pm's and e-mails, it all means so much.
Just wish this could have been a happier hello.

teepi

ps....Sam's forum is still in the personal section..I started a good vibe thread there, if anyone would like to say anything...

 

Teepi,
I thought Sam was gone a long time ago. We used to go back and forth on this forum and she was sure a lot of fun and definitely a fellow traveller. Wish her the best and maybe I will finally actually meet here someway somehow.
Tundrahopper

 

I had a dream last night
What a lovely dream it was
I dreamed we all were alright
Happy in a land of Oz

-John Sebastian-

Teepi, forward my best to Sam.

imhip

 

Hi Teep
been out of touch for a while. Real bummer to come back to such news about Sam. I loved her musings. Please extend my sincere regards. Words seem so useless at a time like this....
Abudman

 

bet she feels deep regret for faking her death now huh??

Well at least she will croke quick from what you say an wont have to live with such regret long...

 

no she faked it,,even got her hubby (or posted in her hubbys name)to post here about the funeral etc.. WAS A REAL SHITTY THING,,hurt a lot of people..

then she came back as some pompous bitch suppossedley livin on a mountain in montana called XE..Till she was exsposed as a fake and a fraud..:X

Was really a selfish self centered fucked up thing she did to folks who cared..

Oh well maybee this time she gets to see what death truly is rather than playin a game with it...

 

HH,
It is kind of weird that she would fake her death-when was that? A couple of years back? Ah well-she has by all accounts been having serious health problems and is no doubt on all kinds of serious meds. I watched my Dad die of cancer a few years back and he was getting pretty erratic those last couple of years. Cut Sam some slack. I prefer to think of her as someone I would love to have met (but that I could never have trusted).
TH4

 

hey man im watchin a sister die of cancer as we speak,, shes on a morphine drip oxygen,, has home health in etc.. just the fuckin same as sam,, only differance is,, sister diffrance,,whom i honor in my sig pic would have never stooped so low as to play such a foolish game,, nor does she expect or want sympathy...

Hell all this eclectic lil witch wants is for us to pick thru her shit before she dies so she knows everyone got somethin,,an then when we cremate her,,for someone to sift thru the ashes an give everyone at her memorial a bone fragment...

hey man i cut her old man lotsa slack,, tis a fucked up thing to watch someone die,,as i said we have a sister whos headed that way,,an its all down hill..

Sam had health problems ,,many of them as you know ..

When she faked her death she hurt a LOT of people here,, now were suppossed to be sympathetic???

Hell i gave all my sympathy the first go around,,, aint got none left for her..

but thats just me...

luv n lite...

 

^^Hey Meagain, is that your Yammy?

Predictably, this Old Hippie Forum topic has taken a dirt road. I think it’s fitting. Sam always enjoyed it when the original thread got lost in the mire of chaos, contradiction and comedy. She often caused derailments just to watch the fright train barrel down the gravel and over the ties in an awkward struggle to get the wheels back where they belonged.

HHB, it’s entertaining reading your words again. I’ve been away and it’s comforting (in a twisted way) to know some things never change.

Below is a recent pic of myself (at viewer’s right) and my brother (motorcycle brother) Festus after a poker run through York County, SC. Festus and I are active in ABATE (A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments).



I’ll be watching this thread and upsetting the apple cart now-and-again.

imhip

 

I can see why you're pissed HHB... from what you've said it was an unfair thing to do, but above all this is just a casual chat forum on the internet.

Teepi, I didn't know Sam but I saw some of her posts and I'm very happy she came to these forums from time to time. It is very sad news. I wish her all the best. (And you too)

 

Purplesauce, you're very perceptive. Certainly, from what HHB has said, what Sam did was unfair. HHB has done a skillful job at justifying his position. And, from his viewpoint, he's 100% correct, and cannot be contradicted. So, your conclusions are justifiable in this setting.

However, not everyone (including myself) shares HHB’s expression of “what Sam did”. I cannot argue anything HHB has provided as a description of Sam’s actions. He may sincerely feel betrayed. And, he may really speak from his heart and with justification (from his vantage). Or, he may think one thing but express another. Who knows? HHB? Maybe, maybe not.

Where we differ, HHB and I, is in the understanding or assumption of where Sam’s head was at when she “did what she did”. HHB would have you believe it was an intentional, malicious, self-centered masquerade designed to deceive and manipulate your (our) feelings and emotions. Certainly, her actions did so. But, the important factor to consider is her motivation, mindset, plus physical and mental condition at the time. HHB has no tolerance for excuses or explanations. Your actions are your exposed nerve, vulnerable and exploitable…. (His playground.)

HHB appears to have no time, patience or tolerance for other peoples approach to the world. Some people see the world as black and white. Either you’re telling the truth or you’re lying. Many of us Old Hippies believe the world and our existence consists of gray areas, mystical areas, and alternate reality areas. Sam spent much of her time in worlds most of us do not understand or appreciate. One irony is that HHB knows these worlds but boo-hoos them (at least publicly). Another irony is that HHB has the “right” through his life experience and deeds to “measure” these abstract matters. That is, for example, if you claim you’re “earthy”, he will eat a pail of dirt to prove “he knows earthy”. If you say you’re suffering, he can spin a yarn that will make you feel like a piker. He has credentials.

And here is where the ultimate dichotomy between HHB and Sam exists. If ever there were two people more alike and more opposed than these two they’d be tough to find in the same space at the same time. Their understanding of each other surpasses most intimate relationships. We are merely observers.

This is why I have total respect for both HHB’s and Sam’s position. One opinion (HHB’s) is more cerebral, and one is more metaphysical (Sam’s). Yet, HHB is much more metaphysical than his rants and raves expose and Sam’s simple pleasures in life such as milking goats and getting high with friends – mirror of HHB’s cerebral lifestyle.

So, as you delve into interpreting “right and wrong, and justifying, and understanding”, as far as Sam and HHB are concerned….. don’t bother. You, as well as most of us are simply “out of our league”.

Certainly, it seems as though HHB feels somewhat betrayed. I will suggest not nearly as much as he pretends to be. He knows Sam was being Sam. He may pretend it came as a shock and disappointment to him that Sam tried to pull the scam that she did, but he’s also smart and in tune enough to have known the realities looooooooong before they were exposed. While he’d lead you to believe he was surprised and outraged when he discovered the truth, he actually knew the truth and toyed with it for weeks before it was exposed. Again, his playground.

Why he has chosen to make it one of his life goals to “expose” and belittle Sam on her deathbed is a question only he can answer. If I were 10 times smarter than I am, I might be able to figure it out – but I can’t. Certainly the reason is so simple I can’t see it.

I love HHB like a brother and Sam like a sister. The relationship between them is something I can not fathom, explain or question. But I know this for absolute certain, the relationship is closer to respect and love than it appears.

imhip

 

Well written, imhip, one of the best postings here, I've ever read. Thank you for this, bro. This are exactly the words, I couldn't find in a foreign language. And for Marsha (Sam), I'm glad, that I met you here, glad, that we kept in touch via email until a few weeks ago, you teached me a lot of things about the world on the other side of my mental and physical horizon, wish you all the best in this lousy situation and I'll allways remember, what you wrote about the next stage of experience.

 

wow... funny, i was thinking about her today, and her more than likely atrocious and terribly unatural eating+smoking habits for some reason..and how unfortunate it is we lose many good souls who give a lot more to this world than they take way younger than we should. but she is lucky in a way i think, she is going home now. i know she will be be fine, but i wonder what larry is going to do? maybe open up his land to people on organicvolunteers.com or something like that when he feels right again. i will keep him in my prayers for sure.

 

Alex,

Sam's husbands name is Ken....
MY husbands name is Larry.

Just wanted to clear that up..

As for the rest of it...I didn't come back to stir anything up,raise any hackles,wad any panties....just knew some of you would like to send a kind thought...hold a memorance...burn a smudge....lite up a doob...whatever it is the hell you do when someone goes home.
Sam will never read this..I will read the kind words over the phone to Ken as that is what he needs right now. I've gotten to know him a bit and he is a very sweet soul...Sam must have drove him crazy at times...haha

But that was my intent...to pass on what I would have wanted to have passed onto me.
I have had people tell me of a friends passing long after the fact, and I always felt a little bit more of a loss as far as sending on a thought while they were still here.

So take what you need and leave the rest...

My intent is where it should be.
teepi

Imhip....had to chuckle..."purplesauce" is a cool name too.

 

teepi, it's good to hear from you again, I hope you are well in mind and spirit and body!

I feel bad if Sam is ill. I, too, felt betrayed from the fake death a few years ago. I've forgiven, but memory lingers. I'm no longer angry about it (in fact, I haven't thought about it in a long long time) (I was a noob when it happened and just getting to know people here) but I hope, if she is indeed ill, that there is some hope for her recovery.

Blessings to you, and to her.

Maggie

 

Hi all,
Well good on Sam despite the fake death and all. It is possible that she got simply too burned out dealing with so many people on such intense levels. Like I have never had someone come almost jumping out of the computer screen at me, and I doubt if I ever will again. She is indeed one in a million and I for one feel priviledged to have fenced with her.
TH4

 

I put some of my thoughts on Sam's personal forum, but I will add to them here...I have rarely seen a person who could stir up emotion in people like Sam could. Love her or hate her, agree or disagree with what she did or said, she got your attention. I never met Sam in person, but I have to say she was one of the most intriguing, thought provoking, spirited people around. I'll miss her like crazy...my life has been blessed by having known her. Sweet journey, sister...

 

I just got word from Ken...Sam's gone home.
He also wanted to thank everyone for the kind words.

Below is the message I just recieved. I will call him in a few days...



Diane... It's with a heavy heart that I tell you that Marsha has
passed. She spent her last three months here at home with the things and
people that she loved. Even in dying she taught me lessons of strength
and courage just as she did for the thirty years we spent together.
Thanks for being her friend. The world's a poorer place for her passing.

...Ken

 

Wow, bummer. My thoughts to those who knew her best.