u might need more details but this is primarly about leg pain n trobing

i have other symptoms to

like sinus heaaches, migraines, allergies....

cramps, pms

but

what is worrying me and i wanna figure out what it is myself cause i dont trust the typical five min appointment with a docter to do it

ya know?

the part of my legs... both of them- throb n if you ever had yer eye twitch or any blood vessel twitch you at least kinda know the feeling....

im not saying it is uncommon to have that, BUT my knees hurt sooo bad (the bones)- that i just wanna stick a morphine shot in there at times

and
below the knees, the vessels on BOTH legs throb. it doesnt HURT. but .... its not normal cause it seems to happen all the time. sometimes it does hurt cause i feel weak. sometimes it feels GOOD cause it seems to release pressure.

if anyone can help me... give me a basis to throw out at a doc., id so apprieciatte it.

thanks.

 

What is your activity level like? How is your diet?

 

Good questions - also weight and height - do you mean your knees or the muscles in your calves or what. I am confused when you say vessels

 

my knees...like the bones in my knees are stiff and it feels like the vessles in my lower legs... cause the way the throbbing feels. basically both hurt... knees and vessles.

 

I really have no idea but i hope you get better because that sounds really really painful...

 

thanks

and the thing is itll go days and days being almost constant and then totally disapear for so long that i forget about it, then start up again.

ill go to a doctor about it but ive had a difficult time in the past finding a doctor that REALLY listens

 

I must be having a dumb attack but I do not understand what you mean by "vessles in my lower legs..." is it muscles in calves - nodes behind knee - deep pain in the calf - pain below the ankle - also what makes it worse or better - when did it start - does it relate to anything you do - that is their something that sets it off - are you on any kind of medication - especially any type of anticoagulant or blood thinner

 

well...in the calves on the back side... i guess it could be muscles....

i dont really know how to explain it very well, ya know. to me it feels very similar to when a vein or vessels twitches in the eyelid....

only it's pretty constand on my lower legs...occuring on both legs


um im on medications but i dont think anything like this is a side effect listed for them and i was taking them way before this started.

what makes it worse? i dont know.... not moving my legs enough kinda does i guess.

shaking it kinda helps, as does putting pressure on it.

more i think about it, maybe it is a muscle thing.

 

This is the only thing I can think of based on what you have told me - If it does not sound right - let me know why it sounds wrong and maybe that will help

Intermittent claudication


An aching, crampy, tired, and sometimes burning pain in the legs that comes and goes -- it typically occurs with walking and goes away with rest -- due to poor circulation of blood in the arteries of the legs. In very severe claudication the pain is also felt ar rest. Intermittent claudication may occur in one or both legs and often continues to worsen over time. However, some people complain only of weakness in the legs when walking or a feeling of "tiredness" in the buttocks. Impotence is an occasional complaint in men.

The usually intermittent nature of the pain is due to narrowing of the arteries that supply the leg with blood, limiting the supply of oxygen to the leg muscles, a limitation that is felt especially when the oxygen requirement of these muscles rises with exercise.

Intermittent claudication can be due to temporary artery narrowing due to vasospasm (spasm of the artery), permanent artery narrowing due to atherosclerosis, or complete occlusion (closure) of an artery to the leg. The condition is quite common, more so in men than women. It affects 1-2% of the population under 60 years of age, 3-4% of persons age 60 to 70 and over 5% of people over 70.

The pulses in the legs and feet are evaluated on the clinical exam. Diagnostic tests include blood pressure measurements to compare the arms and legs, Doppler ultrasonography on the legs, duplex Doppler/ultrasound exam of the extremities to visualize arterial blood flow, an ECG, and arteriography (injecting dye that can be visualized in the arteries).

The prognosis with intermittent claudication is generally favorable because the condition often stabilizes or improves in time. Conservative therapy is advisable. Walking often helps increase the distance that the patient can walk without symptoms. A program of daily walking for short periods, and stopping for pain or cramping, often helps improve function by encouraging the development of collateral circulation, that is, the growth of new small blood vessels that bypass the area of obstruction in the artery. It is essential to stop smoking. Avoid applications of heat or cold on legs. Avoid tight shoes.

Two drugs are available for the management of intermittent claudication: pentoxifylline (brand name: Trental) and cilostazol (brand name: Pletal). These drugs act differently. Trental decreases the "stickiness" (viscosity) of blood and thereby improves its flow to the legs. Pletal acts to dilate (widen) the arteries by decreasing the action of an enzyme, phosphodiesterase III. It also reduces the ability of blood to clot.

 

not to sound dumb, as a lot of what you said makes sense to me, but could you dumb it down a little and put it in a bit more layman's terms for me? just so i know that what i think that means is correct?

thanks in advance.

 

The short version is that it is a problem that causes less blood to flow to your lower legs. The blood does not get enough oxygen to the muscles, which respond by giving you pain. The more you use the muscles the more it hurts. The condition comes and goes. It is rare in young people but it does happen. There are several tests that are used to find out if this is your problem. They all work by measuring the amount of blood that is going to your legs. If you have it, they can usually fix it. They use exercise to build a new blood supply to your legs. There are also drugs that can help. The drugs work by either making the blood thinner or by making the blood vessels wider, which lets more blood go to the legs. If you smoke, you need to quit.

 

hmmmm interesting.

i actually think i figured it out though that i was dehygrated...someone suggested it to me and i started drinking lots of water and it went away.

 

It sounds a bit like thrombosis although you are a bit young to get it. It is life threatening.

 

Drinking a lot of water will increase the blood volume (amount of blood in your body) and reduce the blood viscosity (how thick the blood is) so it will have the effect of taking a blood thinner. Therefore, that may well relieve your symptoms. You may have a mild type. On the other hand, it could be something else entirely.

 

yeah i do take birth control pills and smoke. not smart, i know. i had quit smoking for a month and then restarted again... im gonna quit again in a week or so.

the thought of blood clots in the leg's kinda has freaked me out but since the pain was in both legs i kinda doubt that's what it was.....

 

Intermittent claudication would still get my vote - it is also related to smoking.