Five Reasons Kerry Should Be Elected Instead Of Bush

No, America does not need any other help, we can do it on our own. As of right now I do not think we should care about the international opinion because they are the "peace at all costs" type of people that do not know what is best for America. The war is not misguided and we seem to have done a good job on our own. One of the big things I hear about the patriot act is law enforcement agencies being able to just barge into your home for no apparant reason whenever the hell they want. This is not true. If a law enforcement agency seems to have a good reason they can do so without a warrant BUT they MUST get a search warrant within 24 hours of the raid, if they do not anything they found cannot be used in the case at all. Tehy can only do this if there is no way they can get ahold of a judge to take care of the warrant. To me that sounds like a great idea. If the fbi or someone else has located some sort of terrorist group or huge drug operation or what not, and they cannot get a warrant taken care of before they organization leaves the area to somewhere unknown, why should they have to wait and miss their prime opportunity. They still have to get a search warrant taken care of within 24 hours, and the judge can still opt to not sign it making everything they found unusable in the case. That is the biggest thing I hear people whineing about with the patriot, I havent taken the time to understand the whole thing, so if you guys start complaining about some other aspect of it I do not know that i can rebute it but will certainly try.

 

Um... you're nuts. What support have you for this hefty vote of confidence? Our military's pretty spread out thinly as it is already with the Iraq mess. The world's a big place man, no one country can just go it alone and take on the rest of it.

Oh really... sometimes I doubt America knows what's best for itself. And you're being awfully self-centered and nationalistic. Wasn't part of our whole WoT mantra to supposedly make the world safer or something? Again, why should we expect the rest of the world to have any respect for us if we don't have any regard for them? This is exactly the very attitude that make much of the world have contempt for us, and helps fuel hatred for us in the Middle East and elsewhere.

Define "good job"... does that include invading and getting stuck in a country that has little to do with the actual terrorism movement, based on faulty intelligence?

So it's just cool if they "seem to have" a good reason... The Patriot Act just gives the feds way too much invasive power, in my opinion. I don't like the idea that they can just search our homes without our knowing about it (search warrant or not, I don't imagine it's terribly hard for them to get one), perform wiretapping... this has the makings of a Big Brother system. I believe the fear of terrorism on the home turf has been blown up so that people are frightened into accepting this kind of legislature, same deal with those silly "Code Orange" alerts, etc. In addition to all this, Bush is likely to push for an expansion of the Patriot Act and the powers it grants if he gets another four years. They were drafting one quietly when it got leaked to the press, the "Patriot Act II," which was nasty enough to get most people worried, and the government backed down on it. Read here (it's a non-partisan investigative journalism site) on that story:

http://www.publicintegrity.org/report.aspx?aid=78&sid=200

 

The patriot act is a good thing. You people that are against it obviously do not understand it and believe everything the liberal media misinforms you about. Try understanding it for yourself. UN approveal or the war? Why the fuck should we get their approval? They are not American, they do not support American values and America does not need them. Job loss and being fiscally irresponsible? Things take time to come into effect. Clinton did shit for our country. I don't see why he didnt take that budget surplus and use it to pay off more forign debt, that just strikes me as idiotic. Your reasons are stupid.

The patriot act has been used more for stopping drug dealers than catching terrorists. I don't like the feeling that we are being watched, and privacy is one of the biggest civil liberties we have. Although on the other hand it could be construed as a vital resource in combating terror IF IT WAS USED TO FIGHT TERROR!
American Values (Just some): Democracy, open debate, and spreading the good word across the world.
UN Values: Democracy, open debate, trying to keep everyone from friggin blowing everyone elses heads off. Not too much of a conflict.
The surplus was pretty much a phantom, really, on paper it was a projected surplus. and bush didnt pay off foregin debt did he? also, clinton tried to make healthcare affordable, helped gay rights, made america's schools somewhat respectable again (that no child left behind thing is B.S. it doesn't have any fucking funding and schools just can't reach it's ridiculous standards, some children get left behind, i work with them.)
Oh yeah, clinton also made the U.S. military what it is today.

And, we might just want U.N. Support so we don't have to a) pay off the financial debt of the war entirely by ourselves b) pay off the human debt largely by ourselves c) lend international credibility (which trust me, if we ever need say, france's helping in say, fighting terrorism or stopping cyber crime, it would be better if we didn't call them cheese eating surrender monkeys, they might not be as willing to lend a hand.)

No, America does not need any other help, we can do it on our own. As of right now I do not think we should care about the international opinion because they are the "peace at all costs" type of people that do not know what is best for America. The war is not misguided and we seem to have done a good job on our own. One of the big things I hear about the patriot act is law enforcement agencies being able to just barge into your home for no apparant reason whenever the hell they want. This is not true. If a law enforcement agency seems to have a good reason they can do so without a warrant BUT they MUST get a search warrant within 24 hours of the raid, if they do not anything they found cannot be used in the case at all. Tehy can only do this if there is no way they can get ahold of a judge to take care of the warrant. To me that sounds like a great idea. If the fbi or someone else has located some sort of terrorist group or huge drug operation or what not, and they cannot get a warrant taken care of before they organization leaves the area to somewhere unknown, why should they have to wait and miss their prime opportunity. They still have to get a search warrant taken care of within 24 hours, and the judge can still opt to not sign it making everything they found unusable in the case. That is the biggest thing I hear people whineing about with the patriot, I havent taken the time to understand the whole thing, so if you guys start complaining about some other aspect of it I do not know that i can rebute it but will certainly try.

how has the war not been misjudged. The rationale justifing it is now pretty laugable (saddam harbored terrorists, saddam had wmds).
Peace at any cost means every now and then fighting a war for it.

And i know some drug operations, they don't leave the area suddenly and without a reason.

 

If you're not doing anything illegal, why are you bitching about it? It's not like they are gonna arrest you for nothing.

 

It's invasive, dude, invasion of privacy. It's not a terribly good sign when your government starts getting the power to snoop on you whenever it wants, whether if you're doing something illegal or not. And of course it's damned inconvenient if you do want to do something illegal

 

3 years and it'll be gone. It's not like they are keeping tabs on everyone, just muslims, and minorities.

 

and you don't see a problem with that?
and the war on terror won't ever end, you can't win a war on a concept, lookit the WoD.
As for the 'you're not doing anything wrong stop bitching', A) it's pissing all over the constition, B) it gives the government certain powers that trust me, will be abused, C) can be used to detain people indefinitely without access to a lawyer, this can include political dissidents, drug dealers, muckrackers, people trying to expose the abuses of power in the government, people i have a lot of respect for basically.
D) ever hear of cointelpro? think that was a good idea?