well, i had about half of this post written, but it was all lost, so i must start over again. damn it. no worries tohugh.... so against what was probably better judgment i tripped for two days in a row. the night before last i tried out the 2C-E i got in the mail, and it was interesting, has some potential, but last night was spectacular, and i tried insufflated DPT for my first time. first of all, let me assure you i have no intentions of distributing DPT to anybody, even personal friends of mine. i feel this substance is simply too powerful, too earth shattering, and while i had what felt like a beuatiful, spiritual experience, to others it may be a nightmarish glimpse of insanity. certainly i had very little control and very little understanding of what was happening until it was mostly over. i dont think the general public should use something like this for fun, and i do not encourage many of you to set about to try it, unless you believe wholeheartedly in your ability to be propelled to some of the strangest mental states you can possibly experience. i used a relatively low dose, and i was awestruck. this isn't like taking a couple hits of weak blotter. i ordered 250mg, but was sent a packet labeled as 500mg, but my paypal was charged the amount for 250, so i guess it's ok. however what isn't ok is that it wasn't quite 500mg, i weighed it on my .1g accuracy scale and it came out to just barely above .4g, so im guessing its 400-425mg. it was a very voluminous substance, and it was a task but still a relatively simple one to cut it into 8 approximately equal piles. there was some minor variation due to human error, of course, but i dont expect any of them to lie outside the range of about 40-60mg a peice, mostly centered around the 50mg area. each pile was put in a seperate gelatin capsule for storage, and the eight capsules were put in a baggy in the freezer for storage. yesterday around 5:45 PM i removed one of the apparently lesser doses and dumped it out onto my chessboard on my coffee table. i cut it into two small lines. i planned on just doing one, waiting a little while until i knew if i could do more or not, and then deciding what to do from there. i had read that 25mg is the recommended initial dose for insufflation to see if you could handle a higher dose or not. so what the hell, i had plenty left.... i sniffed up the first half of the first line in my left nostril, the remainder of it in my right nostril and then lay down on my couch. i waited approximately 10 minutes and then felt the first few little signs of tryptamine onset, and noticed how natural and gentle it felt. this was nothing to be afraid of...it has the potential to be very intense, i could tell right then, but it wasnt scary and wasn't like being shot out of a cannon into another universe, like injected or smoked DMT or DPT is said to be. i want to say the come up was intense, but that would be a lie. it was very, very fast though. within probably about 20-25 minutes of first starting to do the first line, i was peaking. its hard to say, though, really, because a moment seemed like an eternity. it wasn't intense, but fast, yet very naturally feeling. it didn't feel like "coming up" at all, it wasn't any struggle, there was no nervousness or discomfort other than a not so well feeling nose....by the time i stopped focusing on feeling the pain, i was there all of a sudden. something clicked and i was in the strangest mindspace i've ever inhabited. it wasn't coming up, it was falling into the DPT experience. gently, softly sinking into psychedelia as effortlessly as imaginable. once there it was a bumpy ride, though. i experienced my first full blown psychedelic induced (rather than meditative) ego-death. i did not exist beyond my capacity to have thoughts, my capacity to have visions, and my capacity to have physical sensation, and while i continuously had all of these things it very, very rarely occurred to me that these things could be assosciated with one another and seen as one personal being. i was thrown around in a chaotic maelstrom of mental activity, with thoughts slipping in and out of my mind faster than i'd ever thought possible. i had visions with eyes closed as i began to leave behind any visual connection to the "real" world as i saw things beyond description. among the most recurrent and memorable things was the sight of a person with multiple sets of eyes that looked somewhat like me...sometimes two sets of eyes, one right above the other, sometimes three sets. i also had "visions" of similar types with my eyes open staring at the ceiling (i couldn't do too much else) though it wasn't as if i could see things projected on the ceiling in front of me, it was more as if i could at the same time look at the ceiling and open up a third eye looking at a completely different place in space, a different dimension even. that was where i saw things with my eyes open, in my brain, not near or around my physical self. i don't know how long this trance-like state lasted, but judging by the clock, which i checked only periodically and which had little meaning to me, i was like this for an hour to an hour and a half...two hours to be quite generous. after the nearly immediate peak i enjoyed a more comfortable 3-4 hour decline, where i continued to enjoy a spacy psychedelic state similar to a moderate dose of mushrooms or lsd, but with a very distinctive feeling to it. it DEFINITELY felt like a tryptamine, and i can't explain it well but it felt somehow as if it were capable of being MORE of a tryptamine than mushrooms or acid (this is an absolutely rediculous idea, i know, but it's how i felt about it). i kept thinking "this is the perfect psychedelic" and while i enjoyed my 2C-E experience, it wasn't as nice as most illegal psychedelics. DPT, on the other hand, i found much BETTER than most illegal psychedelics. it is definitely, even after only a single use, my favored substance of choice. i cannot believe that it is not scheduled, and i will do what little is within my power to keep it unscheduled for as long as possible. i will not allow my friends to purchase this off of my for any price unless i feel SURE that they can handle this, and i will not divulge my sources to any more people unless i trust they won't misuse it. i don't want this to start being used by people that are likely to get themselves into some kind of trouble with it. while coming out of the peak experience, i put in a dvd of bjork music videos. it meshed VERY VERY well with the DPT and i often had trouble recognizing what was cinematography and what was the drug effects. when the dvd was over i just relaxed for the rest of the evening and allowed myself to move about a bit more and smoke some pot and such. though i smoked a lot of pot, i didnt feel very stoned. rather, it seemed to prolong the time it took to come down. though i wasn't tripping per se after 9 oclock or so, i couldnt sleep until about 3. the experience felt entirely natural and beautiful at the time, but in retrospect it was so alien and wierd that i had a little bit of a creeped out feeling for most of the rest of the evening. i have absolutely no regrets however, and the experience was profoundly moving. i want to try a similar, slightly higher dose next time, and eventually a double dose. before i try a double dose i want to experience one of the smaller doses while on a half eighth of mushrooms though. i have very very strong suspicions that this will be among the most incredible combinations possible. i'm still at something of a loss for adequate words to describe the experience and believe that much of this was probably rambling on. let me say that this is almost exactly how i've always imagined a DMT experience would be, with a few differences and of course less of a psychedelic-bullet-to-the-brain effect than most usual DMT routes of administration. this substance makes me feel reborn, makes me feel a whole new enthusiasm for psychedelic use and exploration. i just can't tell you how wonderful it was.
i just revised this a little to make it read more clearly, and submitted a slightly different but still entirely true version of it to erowid experience reports, hopefully you'll see me as a contributing author soon if they see it fit to include! that would make me quite happy indeed
Just a quick question: Did you order online? If so, did you use your own credit card? Where did you ship it to (your home/po box/friend's home/etc.)?
why would i use someone elses credit card or have it sent somewhere odd? its not a scheduled substance.
wow, I've heard some very stunning experiences from people who have taken DPT, Its actually the first tryptamine I'd like to try as soon as circumstances become more permiting and I gain more experience with other psychedelics and a better understanding of my own mind. I've always looked at psychedelic tryptamines such as N,N DMT, 5-meo-DMT, DPT ect... as a tool to use to look inside your own mind, some people like what they see others don't, It sounds like you had a very meaningful and profound experience, I wish you many more.
i definitely do NOT recommend it for your first tryptamine, and wouldn't suggest trying it at all until you had a decent bit of experience with psychedelics in general. i'd say a good first tryptamine would be psilocybin/psilocin...get some nice mushrooms and have a few experiences with that at normal doses (2-4g) and then at least two or three higher dose experiences (4-7g) and at least a couple trips on other things like lsd or some of the psychedelic phenelthylamines such as mescaline or 2C-B before tackling something as heavy as DPT. the only reason i was able to make this DPT experience worthwhile was because i was familiar enough with having a psychedelicized mindset that it didnt scare me to all of a sudden be in a completely different world. if DPT had been one of my first drugs, i wouldnt have liked it at all and would likely have never tripped again. its nice, but only if you're really ready for it. i'm still not sure how ready i am to tackle smoking DMT or DPT freebase oil...i want to try both, but after seeing how intense a relatively small insufflated dose of DPT HCl is, i'm really not sure i could handle much more extreme an experience yet.
^^sorry i meant for my first synthetic tryptamine, i've already experimented with psilocybin and salvia divinorum...In the future Im interested in trying mescaline (in the form of peyote or peruvian torch cacti), LSD, and at least one psychedelic synthetic tryptamine (when the time comes i'll decide which one seems right for me, possibly 5-meo-DMT or DPT) But as I said above Im not going to start experimenting with deep psychedelics or higher doses of certain psychedelics until circumstances allow for such, as I'm currently a student and am not yet 100% comfortable with persuing such mindstates, although I am highly interested in doing so. For the mean time I plan on experimenting with higher doses salvia divinorum and psilocybin in order to reach a point where i'm comfortable with my abilitly to handle deep psychedelic states so I can begin to experience the psychoactives I listed above. I'd also like to state that the experience reports you post here are very helpful to myself and many others interested in pursuing psycheldelic states of mind for spiritual enlightenment, or to see the world through the minds eye. peace
lsd is a synthetic tryptamine. 5MeO-DMT, i would be willing to wager, is rarely purely synthetic, however. there are too many readily available plant sources of this compound, i'd be surprised if most of the stuff on the research chemical market wasn't just very close to pure extracted stuff.
^^yeah i guess thats true, but then again everything comes from a natural source doesnt it another question have you ever tryed Ayahuasca vine? if so what was the experience like?
no, but you'd probably want to use more than just the vine. you'll want to add something such as a source of DMT/5-MeO-DMT, psilocybin, or something like LSD or DPT or something. all of these will be potentiated by the harmala in the vine, and not only will be basically doubled in strength but also rather different from a qualitative perspective. i DO have a good supply of syrian rue seeds, which contain the same important alkaloids as the ayahuasca vine, but have not gotten around to trying it yet seeing as with my lifestyle its sometimes tough to follow all the dietary guidelines necessary to cleanse the body of certain things before taking an MAO inhibitor. the idea of an MAOi kind of scares me a little, but i'll get around to it someday. probably rue+mushrooms will be what happens first. harmala is psychoactive on its own without the additions of these other psychedelics, but from what i understand the effects it has are nothing really spectacular. theres a reason that the traditional ayahuasca brews usually contain the vine AND leaves containing, if nothing else, at least some DMT.
I´ve done the rue seeds 3 times and never found the experience worth all the unpleasant side effects! Thanks for your DPT report. After more than 50 tryptamine experiences (with almost 20 different substances, some of them also in combo) during the last 10 years, I´ve had the thought of going to the next stage for 2 years now. But when I was thinking about DPT and DMT, I´ve always had second thoughts (although I already survived a 3-days-30mg-scopolamine-trip), because I´ve read so many reports of bad experiences. As I know, that we both use the same supplier, I can be sure to get good quality, which - if handeled correctly and with a good setting - can provide a really interesting experience. But next weekend, I´ll go for the BFly first - we have a long weekend here in Germany due to the "Day of Germany Unity" on Oct 3rd, so there´ll be lots of time to experiment and recover.
i've heard of people using harmala extracts, dried, as an addition to cannabis. they smoke it to acheive the affect....it may well be a reduced effect, but i've heard it causes less nausea and such than eating it, particularly when cannabis is involved. i'm thinking i may want to try this way first, just in case it DOES help reduce the nausea and such. DPT is wonderful in my still single experience with it. i'd say if you're thinking of making the leap to stronger drugs it would be wise to start with DPT as opposed to DMT. obviously i dont know for a fact since i've only done DPT once and DMT no times, but from what i understand its generally a somewhat easier to use substance, though longer lasting. a bit more user-friendly, while still being completely overwhelming.
Glad to hear you enjoyed this one. Tis one of my favorites ( i have experience with over 20 psychedelics). It truly is divine. Doses of 100mg insufflated will really break open your head. Explore safely. love and light.
