I think my liver is fucked. Plz Read

First off i been takin painkillers since i was a freshman in highschool and iam now 19. I have taken everything u can possibly immagine lortab, perks, oxy's, morphine patches, methadone, fuckin all of it. Iam addicted i dont go a day w/o something i have w/ds and feel like fucking dieing. I spend part of my day looking for shit and when i find it spend the other part lookin for tommorows high, its getting pretty fucking bad.In my years of takin all this i never even thought to look online and check out fourms for this kinda shit so i havent ever heard of the whole cold water extraction thing till last night. For a long while now i been takin lortab 10's, Percacet 10's about 12-14 a day for i would say for like 2 years constant use (daily) here in the past 2 months have i started eating 12 or more a day usually it was just like 8 or so and with all the acetmepeh stuff same with perks or w/e. Anyway iam guessing i have some sort or liver damage ( never noticed him pain or aches so i dont know). Here in the past 2 weeks i tried shooting up for the first time 30 mg morphine patch, then a few days later shot a oxy 40 cause its fukin awesome and only way i can get high off a 40. I been up for a while now reading on sites and shit about the whole cold water thing and people makin tea and i thought that was pretty fucking cool and wanting to grow some opium poppies, so i kept on reading and i heard about burp docs and shit so i did some looking into it. There happens to be a methadone clinic in my area (after all these years doing painkillers never knew u could go to a clinic for this shit) i have an appointment for wendnesday iam so fucking happy iam finally gonna try to get off this shit and iam gonna find out if my liver is fucked up. Also out of all the pain killers i have ever done methadone has been my fav some people say it dont get them fucked up or w/e but i like then better than oxy's, they give me a good high and last forever.

 

I really doubt you have liver damage, if you did you would probably notice some sort of pain, I know with other organ disease's that I caused.

 

If you do have any damage, the good thing is that the liver heals itself over time with moderate exercise and healthy living, or so I've been told numorous times. I agree with you about the methadone, that shit is crazy. I've only ate it once and it was only half a wafer, but I was fucked up for about 24 hours

 

Good for you that you want to get clean. You probably won't have any problems with your liver if you don't keep it up.

Btw, was Dilaudid (hydromorphone) ever one of your vices? That's the only opiate I could see myself getting hooked on. Something about having an entire gram of completely pure product just sitting in an ampule waiting to be snorted... I'm glad I don't have a hook up.

 

Actually now that u mention it i get 4mg hydromorphone pills from the same woman i get my perks from i usually just snort 2 and eat 3 perk 10s and iam good to go for a 3-4 hrs. A lot of time i would get morphine pills/patchs and they would be oramorph or Fenanyl patchs so its really all the same high to me. If u do get some, shoot it up no better high : ) i havent found one yet anyway. As soon as u let go of your arm and the shit hits u its instant heaven u get this feeling in the back or your throat when u breath in right after u pull the needle out hard to explain it but theres nothing better i gotta stop thinking about it driving me nuts. As for now my plans are to quit it all and just stick with the methadone. Only thing i wanna do now is grow some opium which iam going to start soon been reading about it all day gonna start growing some shrooms and selling them too i think could make a fucking ton of money around here for shrooms. Its funny i get online trying to find a way off the shit and i have leaned how to actually grow/harvest opium and shrooms funny how things work out sometimes.

 

First off, i to answer your question about the status of your liver, you need to provide us with three simply pieces of information: your weight, your height, and your health condition.


First of all, don't feel to bad because if you look in the "pharmaceuticals" section, you see a subject that says "withrawals hydrocodone", posted by user mercury about her addicted husband who took 39 hydrocodone containing pills on an ongoing basis (probably b/c of high tolerance). There is no such thing as pure hydrocodone in our country and each pill has at the lowest 325mg of acetaminophen (norco) but most have atleast 500mg-660mg of acetaminophen (vicodin, lortab, lorcet). He was taking 5-7 times the maximum recomended dosage (4 grams).

The reason why i ask about your physical status is because with skinny girls and guys, 4 hydrocodones will make them puke due to how sensitive their liver is. On the other hand, some can take 12 at a time (not encouraged) and feel no nausea or pain.

Overall, your liver can improve itself. While 16 a day is a lot, do not be discouraged, young grasshoppa! If you think you're an addict and are willing to go to any lenghts, then you are ready to take certain steps.

 

I weight around 170-175, height 5 11' and i would say my overall health condition is good.

 

methadone is a curse ....it will turn u into a fool and kill you ....kicking a big smack or morphine habbit is easy ....methadone is 1000 x worse to kick ....your better off shooting smack ........

 

I've read a bit about hydrocodone overdose...or acetaminophen overdose,actually. What happens is that you take a high dosage day after day and your liver doesn't have time to cleanse itself out...finally,it will become toxic and could be fatal. That's usually how the OD happens..not from taking too many pills at once,but from taking too many for a long period of time. That's the part that worries me about your post.

 

Making a decent amount of money off shrooms is hard. I grew for about 6 months and sold about 75% of the product. I more or less ended up trading it all for weed, directely or indirectely. The best bulk rates you're gonna get (with a damn good buyer) would be around $500/qp. When you think about the time and risk involved, it's just not a real good solution. You don't have to worry about the smell and what not like with growing pot, but if you get ratted out you're completely and utterly fucked. They're far easier to grow than pot, but it's probably not worth it to try and make a living. Too much risk, not enough money.

 

Well iam gonna just give it a shot and nothing else it would be fun. By chance u or know any good growing websites/guides from start finish about opium? You have any experience growing opium at all? Cant find any good start to finish guides.

 

opium isn't profitable whatsoever. you've be better of with shrooms, which isn't saying much. Start with erowid and go from there if you're really determined.

 

I found a site with all the info i need, and iam growing the opium just cause i want to make some tea. I wouldnt ever sell the good shit.

 

bad idea. You said in your first post that you think you are addicted to opiates. I would not recomend subsituting one drug for another if you have a problem with chemical dependency. If you want help, look for AA and NA meetings in your area

 

Went to rehab twice, I was in an Impatient program on my 16th birthday (court ordered), and then when i was 17 tried again with outpatient. I have been to 100's of those meetings and they just dont do shit for me. I think its cause they base thier program around god and I dont believe in god or have any sort of (higher power) as they call it.

 

Well, if that's what you believe, than 12-step is not cut out for you. Besides, to succeed in 12-step you must honor the 3rd tradition about having the desire to not use any mind-altering substances.

If you're wondering how i know so much about 12-step, i've been an activist for marijuana legalization and part of doing such is doing research and 12-step meetings have educated me a lot. PM me if you would like to discuss this with me.

One thing that i have noticed about why 12-step programs don't work is because they are hypocritical. They tell you it is wrong to smoke one bowl (one is too many and a thousand is never enough concept) which probably wouldn't cause much problems but they tell you it's fine to drink 20 Amp Energy drinks (which causes substantial kidney damage). This reference about the 20 amps occured at an AA convention, where such activity was encouraged. Another way they are hypocritical is how they tell you that you can always count on them for support. One time someone walked into a meeting and shared about his craving, and the 12 or so others totally bashed him and told him he was just trying to get loaded; he came to the meeting to NOT get high, rather than be ridiculed.

So, 12-step works for some. They have i believe a 5% success rate, which they don't tell you when you get there. But what i'm saying is that i totally see why you feel that way. However, having a G-d is great.

 

BULLSHIT! As someone who has had access to Methadone for about 2 years (and who has done it for that length of time, with only about 2 weeks in between running out and buying another bottle) detoxing from Methadone is hell for about 2-3 days. It involves mostly nausea, sleeplessness, mild headaches, and alot of time on the commode since your body is no longer constipated.
While that's pretty bad, it sure as hell isn't HALF as bad as detoxing from Heroin!!! OMFG! Plus, you stand a MUCH better chance of surviving a Methadone OD versus a Heroin OD.
Methadone is derived directly from opium, but contains much less opium than heroin does, therefore the amount of time and intensity of the detox are also much less. A Methadone head usually lasts about 12+ hours, which is pretty damn good for a PILL as opposed to having a fucking SYRINGE dangling from your veins....

 

Fentnyal patches... mmmm....

 

Oh yes god I know what your talkin about there. I ordered a couple 100ug one awhile back but the guy said he just ran out of stock by the time my money got there, so they are just sending more 40mg oxy's, still realllly good though, but fentanyl makes me feel a little less like a addict, i mean im only eating/sucking on the insides of the patch

 

LOL Oh yeah!