The jews are almost all gone

"If the bible says, "God will do that and this and this." then it limits God only to that possible outcome. It enslaves Her.
-When I say "Stop looking at the boundaries of men but rather the boundaries of God" what I mean by that is when I say God is going return all the Jews to Israel and then people say "That is impossible!" and it is impossible when you think about it in a human concept but in the concept of God nothing is impossible."

in no way was that an answer to what he said.

 

The Torah doesn't say anyhting about Jesus

 

Ok let me try this again:

Yes, in a sense, God has tempory boudaries here on earth however outside of earth got has no boundaries. God will do what He said He will do on earth. What I mean by my statement is simply with God all things are possible (ie the mass majority of Jews will return to Israel.)

 

what about going to paradise after, doesnt that limit god as well?

 

how so?

 

i dont know just trying to make conversation

 

May not say his name specifically... but there are descriptions of him throughout

 

Actually, the Turks did destroy it.

 

Yet it still stands and no one has walked through it...


The Gate to Prophecy

Why is the Eastern Gate to the
Old City of Jerusalem
closed, and what does it have to
do with Bible prophecy?

Dr. David R. Reagan
​

The Eastern Gate in the old walled city of Jerusalem has a very special place in my heart, for it was that gate which God used to open my eyes to His Prophetic Word.

The year was 1967. The occasion was the Six Day War. As the fate of the new state of Israel hung in the balance, I searched the newspapers daily for any information I could find about the war. The turning point came on June 7 when the Israeli army broke through the Lion's Gate and returned control of the ancient city of Jerusalem to the Jewish people for the first time in 1,897 years.

A Mysterious Remark

The next day I read a fascinating news account about one of the Jewish commando groups that had been involved in the assault on the city. The article stated that some members of the group had suggested catching the Jordanian defenders of the city off guard by blowing open the sealed Eastern Gate. But the leader of the group, an Orthodox Jew, had vehemently protested the idea, stating that "the Eastern Gate can be opened only when the Messiah comes."

That statement caught my eye. I wondered what the fellow was talking about. I knew nothing about the Eastern Gate except that it was the only gate of the city that led directly onto the Temple Mount. I was not aware that it was sealed, nor did I know that its opening was in any way biblically linked to the return of the Messiah.

A Remarkable Prophecy

I decided to do some research on the matter, and that decision initiated my study of Bible prophecy. I had been attending church for 30 years, but like most Christians, I knew nothing about Bible prophecy. The topic was generally ignored by the preachers in the church I grew up in.

My concordance quickly directed me to the passage that the Orthodox Jew had alluded to. I found it in Ezekiel 44. The context is a supernatural tour the Lord is giving Ezekiel of the future Millennial Temple (40:1-3).

In chapter 43 the Lord gives Ezekiel a vision of God's glory entering the Millennial Temple from the east, through the Eastern Gate. The Lord then says to Ezekiel: "Son of Man, this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of my feet where I will dwell among the sons of Israel forever" (43:7).

The Lord then reveals to Ezekiel that the Eastern Gate will be closed and will not be reopened until the Messiah returns in glory (44:1-3).

A Momentous Decision

This prophecy was partially fulfilled more than 400 years ago in 1517 when the Turks conquered Jerusalem under the leadership of Suleiman the Magnificent. He commanded that the city's ancient walls be rebuilt, and in the midst of this rebuilding project, for some unknown reason, he ordered that the Eastern Gate be sealed up with stones.

Legends abound as to why Suleiman closed the Gate. The most believable one is that while the walls were being rebuilt, a rumor swept Jerusalem that the Messiah was coming. Suleiman called together some Jewish rabbis and asked them to tell him about the Messiah. They described the Messiah as a great military leader who would be sent by God from the east. He would enter the Eastern Gate and liberate the city from foreign control.

Suleiman then decided to put an end to Jewish hopes by ordering the Eastern Gate sealed. He also put a Muslim cemetery in front of the Gate, believing that no Jewish holy man would defile himself by walking through a Muslim cemetery.

A Prophetic Symbol

The Gate has remained sealed since that time. The Muslim cemetery still blocks the entrance. The old walled city has eight gates, and the Eastern Gate, and it alone, is sealed — just as prophesied in Ezekiel 44. The world would call that an "amazing coincidence." I call it a "God-incidence."

The Eastern Gate is proof positive that the Bible is the Word of God. Its sealing is clear evidence that we are living in the end times. The Gate awaits the return of the Messiah. Then and only then, will it be opened.

 

Right

 

or perhaps its pure coincidence? Even if prophecies are fulfilled, this doesnt mean God is good, or a loving God

 

It confirms the Bible as the word of God which in turn show that He is a loving God. However, even if He wasn't a loving God we know He is the true God based on the fulfilled prophecies.

 

whats the initiative for worshipping a not so loving god?

 

How can you say that God is not loving when He came to earth in the flesh just to feel our pain?

 

he was the cause of the pain, in the first place

 

The cause of the pain was evil. It was the rebellion towards God. We are part of that rebellion.

 

pff...if god told me not to eat an apple, i wouldnt eat it. plain and simple. im not responsible.

 

If God told you, that you needed to be Born Again, would you?

 

That's ridiculous. To impy that there is ANYTHING seperate from G-d is blasphemous and denies the omnipotence and omnipresence of G-d. You say that evil is the cause of pain. What is the cause of evil? The answer: G-d. He made everything, and he is the cause of everything that happens, even pain.

 

God created beings with free will that chose evil. Sin is what seperates us from God. Whosoever says that they are without sin is a liar and there is no truth in them. If there is no such thing as sin why did the Jews practice animal sacrifice as the covering of sin and now the Jews no longer do such a practice. If Jews are no longer doing animal sacrifices, what is covering their sin?