very scary .. bush to give military law enforcement powers for bird flu pandemic

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  1. txbarefooter

    txbarefooter Senior Member

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    This could lead to things very very scary ... like Orwell's 1984. In case of a bird flu pandemic bush wan't to give the US military law enforcement powers, notice it say "among the reasons", meaning that he has other agendas than just bird flu.

    here is the CNN article.

    President Bush said Tuesday that the possibility of an avian flu pandemic is among the reasons he wants Congress to give him the power to use the nation's military in law enforcement roles in the United States.

    "I'm concerned about what an avian flu outbreak could mean for the United States and the world," he told reporters during a Rose Garden news conference.

    Such an deadly event would raise difficult questions, such as how a quarantine might be enforced, he said.

    "One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move," he said. "So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

    People who catch the worst strain of avian flu can die of viral pneumonia and acute respiratory distress, according to mayoclinic.com.

    The disease has killed tens of millions of birds in Asia.

    Last week, the U.N.'s health agency, the World Health Organization, sought to ease fears that the disease could kill as many as 150 million people worldwide.

    "We're not going to know how lethal the next pandemic is going to be until the pandemic begins," WHO influenza spokesman Dick Thompson said, according to The Associated Press.

    The consequences of an outbreak in the United States need to be addressed before catastrophe strikes, Bush said.

    The president said that he sees things differently than he did as governor of Texas. "I didn't want the president telling me how to be the commander in chief of the Texas Guard," he said. "But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak."

    Should avian flu mutate and gain the ability to spread easily from human to human, world leaders and scientists would need rapid access to accurate information to be able to stem its spread, he said.

    "We need to know, on a real-time basis, the facts, so the world's scientific community could analyze the facts," he said.

    Bush said he has spoken with Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, about work toward a vaccine, but that means of prevention remains a distant hope.

    "I take this issue very seriously," Bush said. "I'm not predicting an outbreak, but just suggesting to you we ought to be thinking about it, and we are."

    Absent an effective vaccine, public health officials likely would try to stem the disease's spread by isolating people who had been exposed to it. Such a move could require the military, he said.

    "I think the president ought to have all options on the table," Bush said, then corrected himself, "all assets on the table -- to be able to deal with something this significant."

    The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 bans the military from participating in police-type activity on U.S. soil.

    Bush began discussing the possibility of changing the law last month, in the aftermath of the government's sluggish response to civil unrest following Hurricane Katrina.

    "I want there to be a robust discussion about the best way for the federal government, in certain extreme circumstances, to be able to rally assets for the good of the people," he told reporters September 26.

    Gene Healy, a senior editor at the conservative Cato Institute, said Bush would risk undermining "a fundamental principle of American law" by tinkering with the act, which does not hinder the military's ability to respond to a crisis.

    "What it does is set a high bar for the use of federal troops in a policing role," he wrote in a commentary on the group's Web site. "That reflects America's traditional distrust of using standing armies to enforce order at home, a distrust that's well-justified."

    Healy said soldiers are not trained as police officers, and putting them in a civilian law enforcement role "can result in serious collateral damage to American life and liberty."

    Last month, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Bush "wants to make sure that we learn the lessons from Hurricane Katrina," including the use of the military in "a severe, catastrophic-type event."

    "The Department of Defense would assume the responsibility for the situation, and come in with an overwhelming amount of resources and assets, to help stabilize the situation," McClellan said.

    The World Health Organization has reported 116 cases of avian flu in humans, all of them in Asia. More than half of them have been fatal, it said.

    On Thursday, the Senate added $4 billion to a Pentagon spending bill to head off the threat of an outbreak of avian flu among humans. The bulk of the money -- $3 billion -- would be used to stockpile Tamiflu, an antiviral drug that has proved effective against the H5N1 virus -- the strain blamed for six deaths in Indonesia last week.

    U.S. health agencies have about 2 million doses of Tamiflu, enough to treat about 1 percent of the population. The money added by the Senate would build that stockpile to cover about 50 percent of the population.
     
  2. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    hmmmmm, so no one trusts the military to police at home, but if they're policing in iraq, well, thats okay then.
     
  3. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    most of the world and country dont want the military in iraq, either.
     
  4. Skratch

    Skratch Member

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    fuck no!!!
    who said that?
     
  5. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    they love disasters , they love the martial law senerio . like 30 yrs ago in argentina n chile ...they love the idea of rounding up everyone and shooting the 'troublemakers' .as well they love to threaten so as to shovell billions to the nazi scientists ....hell they accidentaly created hiv in humans with polio vacine production in the congo 5o yrs ago .
     
  6. Skratch

    Skratch Member

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    ahh the past...
    Its a beautiful thing isnt it?
     
  7. makno

    makno Senior Member

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    yea vacines are a great things . they now say its caused the plauge of autism thats happened ....an as far as the past ...argentinas recent past will look like a picnic , compared to the usa s neer future .
     
  8. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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  9. ChanginTimes

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    that is so beyond irrelevant at this point. we need to bring the troops home immediately and stop the military from taking over our domestic lives.
     
  10. RYEAIRBUDDHA

    RYEAIRBUDDHA Newbie

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    Bird flu jumps transmission barrier in humans 01 Oct 2005 Bird flu has broken the transmission barrier and jumped from human to human, according to the World Health Organisation. Most cases have been bird to human but transmission between people increases fears of a global pandemic.
     
  11. PLyTheMan

    PLyTheMan Senior Member

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    We're all screwed.
     
  12. RYEAIRBUDDHA

    RYEAIRBUDDHA Newbie

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    IT IS COMMING THROUGH THE BIRDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OTHER STUFF COMES FROM ANIMALS OF ALL SORT>
    EAT MEN AND YOUR SICK> Eat
    MEAT and your sick.SAME FUCKING THING. MEAT IS A LIVING THING!!!! YOU FUCKERS IF YOU EAT DNA> YOUR AN ASSHOLE SICK MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Jah Light
     
  13. da420

    da420 Banned

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    ^^^cuckoo cuckoo....?
    anyways, quick question, if we can't eat DNA what are we supposed to eat?
    Last time I looked plants had DNA too...
     
  14. RYEAIRBUDDHA

    RYEAIRBUDDHA Newbie

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    TRUE TRUE. pLANT DNA IS GOOD. i AM JUST TRIN TO SAY DONT EAT MEAT.

    HAVE YOU SEEN MY PICTURES? I AM CRAZY!!!!!! i AM PROUD TO BE CRAZY IN AN INSANE WORLD.
    JAH LIGHT!!!
     
  15. da420

    da420 Banned

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    But Plants Are Living Too Plant Killer!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. RYEAIRBUDDHA

    RYEAIRBUDDHA Newbie

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    You are true!!! As I grow older. I relize, all plants are blue!!!Now isent that true.
    Jah Love
     
  17. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Have we blamed bird flu on the globalists/NWO/Illuminati yet? If not can someone quicky put together a crackpot conspiracy theory? Thanks.
     
  18. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Vietnam 1971:

    Communist sympathisers of Ho Chi Minh secretly return to Vietnam after 30 years in exile and organise a nationalist organisation known as the Viet Minh (Vietnam Independence League). After Japanese troops occupy Vietnam during World War II [1941]. The U.S. military intelligence agency Office of Strategic Services (OSS) allies with Ho Chi Minh and his Viet Minh guerrillas to harass Japanese troops in the jungles and to help rescue downed American pilots. Many pilots on return to America turn communist.

    Wait..It actualy started earlier than this..

    London 1888

    From hell.
    Mr Lusk, Sor I send you half the Kidne I took from one woman and prasarved it for you tother piece I fried and ate it was very nise. I may send you the bloody knif that took it out if you only wate a whil longer signed Catch me when you can Mishter Lusk 'jack' or George W Rush III happened to be a member of ''1888 English Translation of the 'communist manifesto'.." this was later altered [bit long you see] too
    ''American freemasons in London'' [i have no idea why]..once the 'ripper murders' had lost its edge GWR III weighed up his options for a while.

    Years later he would recall these being troubling times .. frequently drunk , it was a blur.

    Eventualy it seemed like every man and his dog was heading for America.. so GWR III decieds, this is for him.

    Vietnam/Ripper connection:

    GWR III had three sons and two daugters and one adopted son.
    The adopted sons name was Garry willam Bush and he liked flying planes ... Having heard of the family 'troubles' he took it upon himself to make himself closer to the family that was not his.. by joining the newly founded '''American freemasons in London: American college society for Oilmens kin'' [GWR III had made it big in oil by this time] . Though not technicaly family he managed with charm and a decent liking for men, to get himself in.

    Years passed [thank god]..

    GWB found himself flying planes for 'Air America' crashing and finding hismself in deep trouble. Thankfuly the Vietnam Independence League found him [eating a chicken].

    We all appreciate the tragic events that occured from these quirks of fate.
     
  19. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Those sneaky little devils... all plotted from underneath the denver airport too I'll bet.

    We'd better get in the bunkers before mossad relases the bird flu and the NWO comes for our guns.
     
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