Attention Parents Of Teens!!!!

I don't have anything against marijuana persay, but I certainly wouldn't be encouraging my teenager to partake or tell him/her to smoke away. It just doesn't seem responsible to me.

 

That's the fault of the "Drug War" not marijuana. The stupidity lies in the law. Seizures of personal property are just one more way the gummermint can stick it's dick up the asses of individual rights and wipe its cum off on the Constitution.

Surely you don't just say "Well, it's the law, so I support it" on EVERYTHING do you?

Some laws need to be changed. Some policies need to be reformed. The Drug War is a F-A-I-L-U-R-E and it is a war on people not chemicals. It has caused more harm and more crime than if drugs were legal and regulated properly.

 

^^^^^Very true my friend. The drug war has been failing since day 1, but because the drug war puts a shitload of money into the governments pocket.....it will continue. It has gotten to the point that even some LAW ENFORCEMENT agencies say that mj should be legalized.

I am not saying that I think that teenagers and the like should be smoking pot or taking any drug for that matter, but when the fucking DEA says that mj is safer than many everyday foods we eat, a closer look should be taken at this substance. I see alot of replies from people that are TOTALLY bitten by the propaganda bug and that's a shame. I am not here to change people's minds about marijuana, just present FACTS. IronGoth is a POSTER CHILD for propaganda.

I see that some people like to blame drugs for the poor literacy skills of some of todays youth. Well, take a closer fucking look at the US school systems before blaming ANYTHING other than kids being piss poor students. I am no spring chicken and I can tell you that one of the main reasons kids are a little stupid today is because the government LOVES to cut school funding and tell our teachers they aren't worth the $$$$. Music and art programs have been slowly being irradicated from our schools and it shows. Children needs the arts to enhance thier minds.

I was in highschool during the 80's (I was an A-B+ student and scored a 1425 on my SAT's. WHILE HIGH), LOTS of kids smoked pot then and they survived, ahahaha!!! Some kids were stupid, some were brilliant. Poor grammar skills doesn't necessarily mean that a person is dumb. Many of todays great writers need someone to proof read thier material and make grammatical corrections. I have been smoking for almost 15 years and it has NEVER dulled my senses. I have a VERY successful career and I think that people that promote the propaganda are mindless twits. They have no thought process of thier own, so they take on the thought process that our government tells them to take. It's sad and will be ongoing.

Bottom line is, kids should NOT take ANY drugs, including the drugs that the government deems legal, until they are old enough to make the right or wrong decisions for themselves. It's people like IronGoth and a few others in this thread that make it tough for the responsible ADULTS to puff without fear of jail time. I am not talking about people that deal weed, just the average everyday Joe that likes to come home after a long day at work and spark a joint to unwind. Alcohol and tobacco are 10x's more dangerous than weed and they will ALWAYS be legal because the government make a buttload of $$$$$from thier sales.

 

This thread makes me smile.

Funniest shit I have read in a long time.Woot!

 

ya, little kids like Iron goth.

 

Well said.....You have a beautiful family sister. Like CSN said, "Teach Your Children Well".

 

I personally find it stupid that LEOs are worried about marijuana when they should be more concerned with real criminals- murderers, rapist, theives.

As for my son smoking (when he is older)- I really don't think mj is a big deal- and so I will discuss it thoroughly with him about the consequences because of stupid laws and stuff and things that might happen if he does- and let him make his own decisions about it.

 

hippylove... i didnt realize i was in your signature... i feel so honored! your baby is ADORABLE, too!

 

tru pot does Make you fuckin retarted.

 

GOTHMAN,
Whew !!! I can't believe the verbal attack you just put on to a 17yr. old. Where is your head at ? Man if I was a drinker your anger and negativity would have driven me to drink a 26 of booze. You couln't just leave it at one lecture, you had to go on and on and on. Just reading it makes me wonder what kind of an iron fisted parent you are. If that is the way you talk to your children I can guarantee that they will rebel and drink or smoke or do both. A little kindness and caring would have gotten your point across much better. Personally I think a joint would do you the world of good and lay to rest your uncalled anger towards M.P. We are not hear to lecture as parents but to teach our children. Teaching love and peace to our children goes a lot further than all of your blah blah blahs. Perhaps learning to live and let live should be something that you should consider. Personally speaking being a hippie in the sixties, I would prefer to see our younger generation smoke weed instead of drinking. I could go on but I am so pissed at your lack of sensitivity, that I feel an instant urge to go and have a NICE BIG FAT JOINT. M.PHYISICIST you would be best just to ignore the jerk, he thinks he knows it all. Don't let him get to you. Maybe valium would be in order for him since he is so anit-drug. LOL " LOVE AND PEACE"

 

well it was an awesome comment

and thank you so much

 

This is why the second amendmant is very important as it would be our last resource to protect us from our own goverment. it that fail we are doom and never loose it.

 

Yeah I definitely agree about how people would be better off smoking than drinking. Sometimes I get stoned and walk around the beach. It is always interesting to watch the drunks leaving the clubs. People are getting into fights, puking, stumbling everywhere, yelling, girls are going home with guys they don't even know, etc. I sometimes wonder what things would be like if those places were pot/hash bars and not alcohol bars..

 

I drink about 2 or 3 times a week. Usually 1 or 2 margaritas (sometimes 3) just to relax a little.

I have never had a DUI, never even driven drunk, never been in any fights due to drinking, don't cry, don't get violent at all, usually turn into a syrupy love-everybody type, give my wife massages, play longer with my son (he calls it Daddy's "Happy Juice")...

Alcohol (at a moderate level) has contributed to my life rather than take away because I use it responsibly.

If marijuana was legal, I'd still drink a little, but I'd smoke weed a whole lot more (probably 2 or 3 times a week).

 

...god damn that first poster whose name ive already forgotten. giving us pothead teens a bad name. I can spell, never gotten arrested, ande i smoke everyday and used to drink everyday, but now its only on the weekends. but im not stupid enough to say im gonna do heroin or cut my wrists cause im depressed. ive been depressed for almsot 2 weeks and that thought never entered my mind.

 

I too am against kids smoking dope. I understand all about responsible recreational drug use. But it has to do with what your job is while you are a kid. As a little kid you are supposed to play and learn about the world. As a teen you are supposed to learn at school or home and prepare yourself for the world of work ahead of you so that you don't end up on welfare and what have you. If you are using drugs they will inhibit your ability to do your "job." I made it through school, through college, and although I'm no saint and have made some decisions that were not the smartest I attribute the fact that I am not on welfare to my education, work ethic, and strong friendships with others. (Yup, starting your own business is a risky proposition, without my friends I would be soooo screwed. But if they weren't encouraging me so much I wouldbe out schlepping for the man.)
Now my job is to support myself and my family. I also have a toddler and I don't believe people who are parents should use drugs either. I too have a job that I can't mix with pot.
Drugs are an excellent way to fry your brain, but they aren't that great for your future. Maybe the reason the original poster is so depressed is because he is experiencing some of the side effects of marijuana use. I believe depression is one of them. Also beware of HEROIN! It can make you feel great but it can also addict you quickly and kill you. I found out recently too that it burns out the part of your brain that makes you feel happy- the dopamine receptors. It makes you feel so intensely wonderful that your receptors sort of short circut. People who use heroin have to keep taking it to feel happy because a normal amount of dopamine no longer registers. They lose the ability to get happy about normal things- baseball, ice cream, squirrels, love... heroin will ruin those things for you. DON"T DO IT!

 

RE: if cops ever catch stuff i take full responsibility fro my actions..

It isn't UP to you!

RE: Pot does NOT make permanent changes to the way your brain functions. Obviously science has transcended the facts of the time when you were doing your "research"

Wrong. And I did not do this research - it was done by Ph.Ds at a prestigious Canadian University. I know the people involved and out of respect for em am saying nothing only to say they used to be total wasteoid potheads but stopped cold turkey when they saw the results. Remember, they were trying to prove pot is harmless.

RE: Irongoth is totally right about asset forfeiture though. That's why I definitely don't condone growing in your parents houses. A simple possesion won't be as drastic as he is making it out to be, they would charge you not the parents.

Not necessarily. Look at the papers these days - parent charged cause kids had pot party, that kind of thing. Doesn't matter the parent didn't know, or did know and was trying to stop it. And that's the kind of thing that will screw with the parents' lives. Maybe they won't go to jail but they might be chosen for the next layoff or asked to find work elsewhere.

RE: The most dangerous thing to a pot smoker is the fucking LAW. The laws in this country are MUCH more detrimental to the user than the actual substance could ever be. Since when should the punishment be more severe than the crime?

Yeah, and that's the crux of it for me. Some people wanna break the law, that's fine. But DO NOT bring legal crap to people OTHER than yourself. If smokeboy wanted to do that in his OWN crib that'd be fine by me - he'd only be putting himself at risk.

RE: my mom may find it, and i would get in big trouble, but the cops never will. the cops need permission, or a warrent, to enter my mothers home.

WRONG

RE: But i dont agree with him saying that marijuana will make you any diffrent of a person.

Nonsense. I've received a bunch of PMs "I was uptight - pot made me a changed person." It DOES make you a different person - for the most part a lethargic, disinterested person.

RE: It wouldn't surprise me if you were one of the people on the bus that Rosa Parks rode in bashing the shit out of her because her sitting up front is illegal.

Did I ever say any of this? How about this - how about you prove your actual comprehension skills by understanding my arguments and responding to them, rather than making the stupid, ill-founded and offensive ad hominem arguments that I think it's NOT OK to screw with your parents' house and rules because I need to get laid, cause I'm a shill for the religious right or the Bushes and somehow I'd support Jim Crow laws. Obviously you cannot argue against what I'm saying so you attack me as a person. Just goes to show you need to grow up and get your heads checked.

RE: And lastly, where do you get off bashing mj in a forum that is about using mj?

THIS IS A FORUM ON PARENTING NOT BEING A STONER, MORON. Maybe if you had less THC in your brain fat you'd realise the issue is parenting, not marijuana.

RE: not to single ya out, ssj3gotenks, but this just isn't true. parents are responsible for their kids actions - LEGALLY - with all the bs that entails, including loss of property & incarceration.

BINGO.

RE: its only illegal because there are people like iron goth who think bad laws are fine to have around, just live through it and youll be fine.

You have no clue what my views are. As far as I care, decriminalize it, decriminalize it all, and let people destroy their own lives for all I care. But this is, ONCE AGAIN, about the PARENTS' right to make their own rules for their own home, and their right to NOT risk legal problems cause the kid's too in love with the bong to realise that that is what is being risked.

RE: but for as long as the law is there, it sure IS a parents responsibility to keep their kids, and themselves out of trouble.

CORRECT. And those who don't find themselves wondering why CAS took their kids, or up to their eyeballs in legal problems.

Stay on task and stay on topic. This is about the rights of the parents.

And frankly, my only digression was to point out that dope has made the original poster unable to spell, unable to formulate a decent argument, etc. And what's more, he's a flaming drama queen. Go ahead and shoot smack or kill yourself. That'll show them, right? Way to prove that you're mature enough to handle breaking the law and/or taking mind altering substances.

The fact that he says the only way he could possibly relate to his parents is by getting stoned with them indicates he has a lot of personal issues to work through before screwing around with his brain chemistry.

 

RE: I too am against kids smoking dope. I understand all about responsible recreational drug use.

It's amazing how many people are agreeing with me on this point, which was my only point.

RE: But it has to do with what your job is while you are a kid. As a little kid you are supposed to play and learn about the world. As a teen you are supposed to learn at school or home and prepare yourself for the world of work ahead of you so that you don't end up on welfare and what have you.

Yeah, and when it makes you basically say you're only gonna care about your grades unless your parents reward you, this is a BAD SIGN. A VERY BAD SIGN.

RE: I personally find it stupid that LEOs are worried about marijuana when they should be more concerned with real criminals- murderers, rapist, theives.

When you get into the real world you realise the vast majority of cops are interested solely in retiring at 45 with a full pension - with aggressing people they don't like, and doing the easiest job possible - while making sure they get a little action off the prostitues, for free of course, unless they wanna go to jail. Their level of interest in your situation is based solely on your likelihood to complain to someone who can fire them - basically your skin color and socioeconomic class as well as how connected you are to the chief. What would you rather do - take down a big drug dealer who's giving you a kickback? Or harass some unarmed, scrawny 16 year old with a couple of joints? Followed by maybe some heavy investigation of an overtired, two-parents-working middle class household merely getting by?

REL Whew !!! I can't believe the verbal attack you just put on to a 17yr. old. Where is your head at ? Man if I was a drinker your anger and negativity would have driven me to drink a 26 of booze.

You are therefore a weak minded person.

What was I thinking? That the kid needs to work through some issues rather than running away from them in a bong.

 

Obviously there are some cops that actually care about doing a valid job, but you'd be amazed how many of them are in it to see what they can get away with- and how often they cover up for their own. And yeah, from where I'm standing, if I was one of them I'd rather help a little old white lady's cat down from a tree rather than deal with a ghetto domestic violence call or a shootout somewhere, which would potentially lead to me not going home.

Whether the law is correct or not is not my concern. The law is what it is - I choose to follow it because I'm a guest in this country and wish to go about my life unencumbered. If I truly disagreed with the law I would simply move elsewhere. Others should have that right too.

 

Where is this study? Are you going to provide facts with your assertions?