who believe change is possible?

good point. My personal view on it all is ther is more to the story that just evolution or the common god.

have you ever heard of the Anunnaki?

 

Sorry i dont understand..can u explain me with other words "there's more to the story that just evolution or the common god"?
Anunnaki?

 

The revolution is a long time-a coming

 

because of civilization/society, not human nature itself.

who knows what we would be doing without it all.

 

Well, i am talking about how it was we happen to be here. Some say god,gods,evolution, and all sorts of other stuff. What i am thinking at the moment is this... http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/dm_report.html

Now if you read this it will explain. The extreme short story is that another race of beings created us. They were not gods but we viewed them as gods because they were so powerful.
I know , sounds like a science fiction book but so does the bible and all those other stories.

 

good guess but not fact. keep an open mind... everything around you could be fake and all the facts might just have been untrue.

They thought the world was a cube for the longest time and said it was fact. lol , boy were they wrong

 

i do have an open mind thank you

 

saying that we are simply animals is just logical. look at where we came from in terms of evolution..

 

Ick.
David ICKe has completely preverted the whole 2012/Anunaki theory.
For that, I spit at his name.

 

ok, now that i skimmed through your link, and i realized that i know what you are tlkaing about, cause i heard it on the radio at 4 in the morning...


after further reading, i was gonna write a huge long thing basically saying how [pardon my "closemindedness"] stupid the theory was, but i lost intrest fast....

one question thoguh...if the alien overlord creation planet is the 12th planet [counting the moon, i know] how come the site is Plantet X?

 

Hm... not completely, I think. With all or most (other) herd animals, there's no such thing as 'private', while humans, especially in the western world, have this very strong 'keep to your own fucking business'-mentality. We're only in the herd for the benefits, but we'd much rather (and much 'ratherer' than any other herd animal) leave the others to solve their own problems.

Who 'really' knows their neighbours anymore nowadays? Almost nobody, I expect. I don't. We say hi and all and sometimes we might even visit them occasionally but beneath the surface we know nothing of them, and do we really want to (except perhaps for embarrassing, gossippable unusualties)?

With the rise of personal wealth comes the rise of (financial) independence from the herd and ultimately of individualism.

 

cliques.....

 

Okay, okay. You're probably right(er than I was).

In the end it all comes back to the ability to handle more complex thought and opposable thumbs...

("Is that all I am to you?! The ability to handle complex thought and an opposable thumb?!" *sob*)

 

possible explanation...kin selection theory...you only help those with close genetic relation to you [even if it reduces your own chance at reproduction] so that a part of your genes will be passed on

 

hey man i can see why you would think i was bashing you and i am sorry about that.I just dont like it when people state things as facts when they are theories.

It is not like i dont like ya or anything. From what i have seen you seem like a cool dude. I never ment to say you were closeminded, just that you might have been i little to excited and triped a little. I have been chewed out for untrue facts myself.

 

strawberry fields told me this thread was here. i sure believe in a change, but a change in what? in this thread i see a few things, war bladiebla... but i don't think we only have to focus on war.. that's just stupid
look we are living on the earth, on the earth there is nature. i believe that nature is where we come from, and that we have to live together with nature. at the moment human is so far that nature can't do her way, you know what i mean??? it's giving and taking, but we take to much.
people want power, to much power. we have country's, but what for??? just to split the different powers??? o my god, i mean animals don't have country's, they just have there groups. i think the world will be much better if we just have these groups. yeah of course these groups are fighting each other sometimes, but i think THAT is just nature.... i mean in history there where also this groups (i think) and they did live in balance with nature, they did giving and taking in the right way. Look at the indians, i think they live in balance with nature.

i'm trying to make clear that i am thinking that they way we are living now sees for war and authority from your own country, and not living free but how THEY want it. i think that need to change.

how we can change it?? i think there is not one answer to that. just a few, it's not that you can change it just in one step i think. they are to far for that. i think it must be step by step, piece by piece. just with little things and make the little things bigger.

well, my english is not that good but i hope you get my story i would like it if you give an reaction at my story

 

change i think is possible, but its DAMN hard work, and it has to be pragmatic.

i mean when u see all the various cultures that are present or once existed on this earth, and u know that they all came from one source, its obvious that change can happen. That doesnt mean it happens over night, cuz usually its a slow process of re-educating the individual, community, race or nation involved.
But 1 way or another it IS possible.
What kinda change or reforms u wanna bring about is another issue.
Personally i would like to see something more practical than philosophical (at least initally), like the introduction of permaculture into the established system (for an introduction to permaculture go to: http://www.permaculture.org.uk/mm.asp?mmfile=whatispermaculture or else type the word "permaculture" into any good search engine). This in turn would make it easier to bring about an enviromentally sustainable philosophy's entrance into other areas of life..and possible this could be 1 route to the en masse re-emergence of the hippy sub-culture (which i personally think would be great ).
so basically i guess im kinda backing up nananie's point a little bit in my own way that and enviromentally based change in our society would definately be a step in the right direction, and could lead to bigger and better things possibley.
Peace and Love

 

I think things can be changed but its not easy. If enough people want the same thing, things will change. Its like if there's a big group all wanting the same thing and speaking out about it, it may well happen.

 

but if there's nothing happening, then nothing is happening... u get my point