Ramadan...whole month without weed

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by pakistan, Oct 9, 2005.

  1. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    nah muslim. maybe just another differnet interpretation of the whole thing. i mean, maybe his family was allowed to eat heaps at night but simply chose not to because they wanted to be better muslims or something
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Whether you should smoke or not really depends on a few things. Mostly on your personal feelings about marijuana. Do you think it is bad for you spiritually, or do you think it's good? Also, I seem to remember that long ago, marijuana was often used among muslims (because of the alcohol ban), it's why they developed the hookah (tobacco is a new world plant). The sufis used it a lot, but I think it was pretty widespread. So there is some precedence of pot use among Muslims.

    But, as far as fasting goes, that's different, and so far it seems everyone's missing the point. Here's what you should look at... after the whole day of fasting, what do you do in the evenings? Is it a simple meal of bread and water (just the basics) or do you have nice meals, or feasts? What we're looking for is the ATTITUDE of the fast. Is it about sacrifice, going to a very simple lifestyle to focus on Allah, or is it more just a fast during the day, business as usual at night? If it's business as usual, go ahead and smoke.

    Also, take into account my earlier question. If you see weed as helping you spiritually, then that should be considered. But be honest with yourself.

    As far as the discussion goes, I agree it's vital to form your own opinions and beliefs, but that's not to say someone can't be Muslim. They'll just be their own brand of Muslim. All one has to do to be a Muslim is make the declaration of faith and accept the 5 pillars of islam (one god, charity, daily prayer, fasting, and the pilgrimage to Mecca...correct me if I messed that up). Beyond that, everyone will have their own interpretations (especially since Islam is not centralized like the Catholics, there is no Muslim "pope"). But I am a big fan of "pick and choose" religion, because so much in organized religions is bullshit (no offense pakistan, just my opinion). I'm a major proponent of personal spirituality, rather than organized religion.

    Now, a question. As far as that no sex, no mastrubation thing goes...is that during the day, or is it all day and all night for the whole month? If it's the latter, then I can see that "don't get angry" rule being broken a LOT later in the month by all those frustrated people...
     
  3. pakistan

    pakistan Member

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    i do understand what you're saying....just today i learnt that smoking hash is a choice..its like not many ppl over here eat DUCK..but if you want you CUD eat it....so if you WANNA smoke hash you can....but i dont know if this statement is correct....
    i've decided if i do end up buying hash...i will smoke up.....cuz i'm low on cash :D s i dont know if i ll be abel to by it or not...so lets see....

    the sex and masturbation ....thats only for the day....but if you masturbate/have sex then you cant offer your prayers (salat) untill you take a bath/shower....
     
  4. mrcobain85

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    I say smoke anyway lol I used to be muslim bro .... I stopped caring
     
  5. The Caterpillar

    The Caterpillar Member

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    I didn't read every reply in this thread, but I'm with you on what you said there. Good stuff.
     
  6. pakistan

    pakistan Member

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    what have you converted too?
     
  7. Jack_Straw2208

    Jack_Straw2208 Senior Member

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    i think it all depends on how pissed off you think allah will get. if you cant even smoke cigarettes, i dont think you should smoke grass.
     
  8. jojoeyes

    jojoeyes kinda high

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    i find this whole religion thing interesting, and a little scary lol. but remember...weed will give u the munchies, and that'll be a bitch while fasting
     
  9. The Caterpillar

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    I disagree actually. I think cigarettes would be worse because they really don't do anything productive for you, they are just destructive in almost every way you can think. Weed isn't like that, you get something out of it that's not just feeding an addiction's withdrawals.
     
  10. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I forgot to say this: if you decide to smoke, only do it at night. It seems like something you should refrain from during your daylight fast.
     
  11. AlteredOrgan

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    think of it this way, if your fasting your not gunna want to smoke bud because you'll have the munchies all bad and then you can't eat...doesnt sound fun to me, dont know about you
     
  12. tumbledownDNA

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    don't do it because you feel socially or culturally obligated. if you want to use the discipline of your religious heritage to test your personal power by abstaining, do it! it may prove a worthy experience. but do it from the heart, not because you feel compelled by parents, religious authority. i would even say that you could have a pretty spiritual experience smokin bud after a whole day of fasting.
     
  13. Beleg

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    I agree with tumbledown, but if you really feel like getting high, dont smoke it, bake it into a brownie! That way, you remain pure and still get stoned.
     
  14. pakistan

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    thanx for the input guys...i'm thinkin i wont smoke up ....its only one month...so i ll try my best to stay clean....
    the discussion can carry on if someone else has a query?
    thanks for all the input.
     
  15. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    you do know what fasting is, right?[​IMG]
     
  16. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    The hell? I thought Islamics were forbidden from anything intoxicating...
     
  17. Orsino2

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    Will someone just pass the damn bong.
     
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  19. Twizz

    Twizz Drug Conoisseur

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    LMFAO! True true... Enough of this arguing... Smoke if you want to. Passing the bong once again.
     
  20. nesta

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    muslims aren't generally supposed to drink alcohol, apart from that i'm not positive that anything else is specifically FORBIDDEN, but perhaps (strongly) frowned upon. btw, afaik "islamic" refers to islam-related things (islamic country, islamic law, islamic organization, etc.) but if you're referring to people, they're muslims.....could be wrong though

    even with the alcohol thing, though they arent supposed to drink, some will occasionally do so anyhow. my uncle's a shiite, and at family gatherings will, on occasion, have a beer or glass of wine, though it's usually in strict moderation. still, as i understand it, even this is strictly forbidden. then again, i suspect he's given up almost every aspect of his religion since he first moved to the states. i dont know if it's a loss of faith, or abandonment of religion because he feels god has turned his back on him. could be either, and i could understand both.
     

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