Is God some kind of psycopath who..

likes to squash and crush people who some to see him with deep devotion and immovable faith?

Stampede's in temple and other places of religious worship


Mandra devi Temple ,Mumbai 375 dead


Recently in Iraq 1000's dead


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This raises several questions

1.What kind of a psycopath is God ?

2.What is his sphere of influence if he cannot influence happenings in his
own temples and mosques ?

Now what if men were responsible for all this and it all happened because of negligience of men ?

Then that means men exert greater influence in places god is supposed to reside in than god himself

If there is a God he surely doesn't give two shits about all these people
or else he would have done something
Or I think he himself is helpless and can do nothing but watch
Or God is dead

I just stopped visiting temples years ago and only visit one when coerced by family members (do not wish to annoy them )They are meaningless

I suggest you guys do the same and stop wasting your time
lest you get killed


P:S --- Please don't tell me God moves in mysterious ways heard that story many times

 

Thing is that all these disasters like temple stampedes etc are actually solely caused by humans not organizing themselves properly.
I don't think God intervenes in human activities directly - it would be a bit of an old fashioned idea to believe that God could, for instance, have prevented the Iraq war or similar events. Humans are free to act as they see fit (up to a point).
The conditions of nature were established here millenia ago - if humans have failed to adapt to the reality of life in the physical world - as I think they have - that is for humans to deal with.

Or - perhaps God has had enough of phoney organized religions that simply enslave their followers and really have very little to do with God.

 

sigh, although it is regrettable that people have died so terribly , one has to also realize that suffering is a normal part of life, we all suffer but in order to not get affected by it, we do other things, mainly seek wisdom and the help of higher power and finally gain the strength to change things for the better too ofcourse.

 

Where does god reside? God resides everywhere, not in just temples and mosques. Even withint hose who died, there was God. But the rule of the game is that you recieve what you deserve. Not knowing the full picture of these people's lives, not just in previous births but even this birth, not knowing what their actual state of mind was at the time, not knowing what became of them after death (which loka they went, where they were reborn, etc) you or I cannot say whether it was fair or not. But have faith, Bhagwan is in fact very merciful, very kind, very loving.

Everything that is born has to die. Personally as a devotee, I cannot think of a better way to die than to lose my life in a temple, at the feet of other devotees of the lord at a time when his form was in my eyes and his name in my heart. If bhagwan gave me such a beautiful death, it would be a great showering of grace.

 

It is said that when God wants to bring his devotee close to him, he takes away all the possessions,t he family, wealth, everything, so that these bonds are cut and he blesses the devotee with the strength to withstand these difficulties and see them for what they are - a divine blessing.

 

I just read a book about aboriginal spirituality and they explained something like that like they are forever and reside in that body for a very very short piece of forever...when something like that happens one soul agree'd to take the body in order to teach the other soul a lesson....like the victim of the murder agree'd to take an incarnation so that he may sacrifice that life so that the other soul taking its incarnation will receive a teaching through murdering the other


...I found their belief system very similar to many others...surprise surprise

 

Perhaps it is only through humans that God acts at all in this human world.

Churches, temples, mosques are all human creations. So are the arrangements which allow such disasters to occur.

Once again, maybe the faith of most is not in God but in a set of cultural practices or even prejudices. It is often a belief based on fear, and on what has been drummed into people by religious teachers - many of whom are quite un-enlightened, and seemingly more concerned with their own agendas than any realistic approach to God.
Orthodox type faith in established religions may even be a major factor in holding humanity back from any real solution of the difficulties here on earth. Often, such belief systems are divisive, and only get their power from a denunciation of others who are not of similar belief.

In effect, it's often the case that religion encourages a kind of herd mentality - I think the historical epoch when such things were acceptable has passed.
What matters is to have a personal connection or realization - it seems many followers of orthodox religions don't have this - hence their religions are a failure.
They can't even organize a big event without disaster.

 

Thank you for turning something negative to the positive state...yes...I suppose that dying with His name on one's lips and in one's heart would indeed be a blessing...

 

It might be - but consider too those left behind - orphans for example, and one might not be killed, but only injured - possibly left maimed for life, and in some parts of the world, there is very little or no social provision for those who can't support themselves.

 

I got what I wanted

Though I don't agree with what most of you are saying
I am not going to continue this due to a lack of time

 

I guess it's attachment to our bodies which is the problem. It always going to end in two ways.


1. The body will die young, most likely in an abrupt or horrible fashion.
2. The body will decay, rot and become unusable.

Either of the above isnt much fun, and guaranteed.

 

Death is garunteed - only thing that is really. But it needn't be thought of necessarily as something negative. It may be that death will afford us a great opportunity.
It seems to me that it's all a question of attitudes - in western culture, death is kind of taboo - it's something people just don't want to think about - many seemingly live under some illusion of their own 'immortality'.

 

Thats a pity - it would be interesting to hear how and where you disagree -
But time presses everyone at times...........

 

Thats funny, since vedanta says that death is an illusion and immortality is the reality.

 

Becouse simply he dont exist a real God would intervene . we are not as powerfull as God but thru out History we intervene many times to save others. what your saying is that this lazy ass God dont give a shit so why should we.

 

I think he's saying that many people don't think about death, afterlife, God, etc., very much and live in the material world as if it's what is eternal.

 

Yes - I only meant that people think their lives will go on forever because they are totally focused on the external world, and don't give any attention to spiritual matters.

 

So by logic we are not powerful at all, since we are less powerful you say than something which doesn't exist.
Yet this non-existent being is also lazy........

 

yep!

 

Exactly , it is a waste of time to think about why it happens, because the more important question to think about is how it happened and what the indian government could do to prevent it in the future. Also, what we could do right now about it.