Domestic violence!!

Discussion in 'Relationships' started by wiggy, Oct 11, 2005.

  1. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    A friend of mine has been hitting her b/f for ages - he doesn't talk about it but she tell's people!! like its some kind of good thing!! i saw him the other day and he has a huge black eye, its horrible, i told him to get out but he loves her and wont, he has never hit her she's just doing it to him, i suggested councilling (sp) help, loads but she wont, i seriously think she is sick in the head.

    I kind of have a respect for him though for not lashing back when she is kicking 7 bells out of him, but in way's i dont have respect cause he wont get out!!! Anyone got any other thing's i could try and get them to do, ohh and i gave him number's for support group's etc - but they wont go along!!!
     
  2. sonador_hermosa

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    this sucks....men never tell when they are being abused, partially because women are usually the only ones who report domestic abuse, thus the police do not normally believe the guy...also, guys usually don't tell because they feel immasculated that their woman is beating them up, so they don't like to admit the abuse :( i hope he gets out of his bad living situation soon!
     
  3. ihmurria

    ihmurria fini

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    fuck counselling, he needs to get out of there pronto until she can deal with her violence issues. that is NOT a safe place to be
     
  4. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: I kind of have a respect for him though for not lashing back when she is kicking 7 bells out of him

    He doesn't want to go to jail and have his beatings compounded with anal rape and a conviction that requires him to register with the state.

    RE: fuck counselling, he needs to get out of there pronto

    Where to? Most places have no facilities for battered men - and the new DV act specifically exempts men. The language is all woman, she, female.
     
  5. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    they need to have places for men - they really do, i saw him 2day and it was horrible
     
  6. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Well, they don't.

    Look into the DV industry (it is an industry) and you'll find out some startling facts very quickly.

    There is a feminist idea that domestic violence follows the patriarchy. Men oppress women because they're phallocratic oppressors, therefore men beat women. Women cannot beat men, and lesbians certainly never aggress each other (any actual evidence to the contrary is shouted down). That is also why liberals say that blacks can't be racist against whites (maybe they should try living near the ghetto) - and note they always say it's not open to discussion, they're right, you're wrong BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH

    It's women that run DV centres, that argue for the laws, etc. That's why almost ALL of the DV stuff, from the procedures police must follow to the ambulance chasing lawyer paths of least resistance to the laws are all based on the notion that WOMEN never aggress men. And that if a woman does he can simply walk out of the house and somehow she won't come after him (Phil Hartman anyone? Oh right, he's dead) and he'll certainly have a place to stay (the street).

    Here's the deal. Go out there and try and find him a shelter, counselling and a way to press charges. Good luck with it.

    By the way, the act is called the Violence Against Women Act. It calls for DNA testing and men to be put on a DATABASE OF BAD MEN even if no charges are filed and she's lying.

    http://womhist.binghamton.edu/vawa/doc21.htm
     
  7. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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  8. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    how about women can be as nasty as men one then
     
  9. IronGoth

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    VAWA has resulted in:

    Mandatory arrests without a warrant, based on hearsay
    A standard under which the accused is guilty until proven innocent and mere allegations now suffice as proof
    Forced citizens from their homes and children with only the clothes they're wearing with no pretense of due process
    Endorsed searches without a warrant
    Allowed seizure of property without redress
    Deined defendants counsel, right to confront one's accuser and obtain witnesses
    Imprisonment before trial
    Public censure for crimes not committed

    By the way under VAWA a battered spouse can apply for immigration asylum. Not so if they're men. Or older male children. So put up with the beatings or go back to Bangladesh.
     
  10. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: how about women can be as nasty as men one then

    Doesn't exist.

    I could make one but I'd probably end up in court for offending the sensibilities of women.
     
  11. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    By the way - this is interesting - if it had been a female being beaten by her BF you'd have been onto the cops, right?

    Yet you've done SWEET BUGGER ALL for this guy.

    Can't blame you. There's no point.
     
  12. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    who hasn't me?


    wtf can i do
     
  13. Hanzo Sword

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    Well, this guy CAN'T call the police himself. Many police departments are under orders to always arrest and haul off the man at a domestic violence scene regardless of who the perpetrator is.

    As sad as it is to say, I think the ONLY way the police would come to the aid of a man in this situation is if a FEMALE third party (friend, relative) called them and tipped them off. And even THAT might not work to keep him out of jail.

    Wiggy, wtf can you do? You can alert the authorities, you can show your friend what it feels like by giving HER a couple of black eyes (she deserves it, although I don't think more violence would be much of a solution to her malfunction), you could tell HER parents or HIS parents or HIS ex-girlfriends or other close female friends who might be willing to come to his aid. Please, for this poor guy's sake, do SOMETHING. If you were being beaten, wouldn't you want someone to care enough to do something about it? If this guy continues to suffer this shit, one day he may snap and do something desperate, something that could make his life much worse consequently.

    One way or another this bitch needs to be stopped and this guy needs to be freed. HITTING MEN IS NOT $%&#!## OK AND SHOULD BE TAKEN AS SERIOUSLY AS HITTING WOMEN IS! By EVERYONE!
     
  14. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    Well i saw her today and she's alrite - i didn't see him, believe me i want to give her a black eye but that aint gonna help him is it, There is nothing the police can do because he wont press charges- they have been called out a few time by neighbours, because she was screaming. There is nothing i can do, i spoke to another friend of mine who was getting hit by her b/f and she said theres not much they can do about it (police etc.) its totally crap - i offered him a place to stay where she can't get him, there is lots for women but not alot for men, they have to want the help and things - which im sure he does but wont/cant get it!!!!
     
  15. Hanzo Sword

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    I think the best bet would be gathering all of your and her mutual friends to confront her about this - have an intervention of sorts. And what about telling his and her parents (or maybe siblings)? I think hers should have the right to know that their daughter is an abuser in order to try to get her some counseling or something. And his parents probably care about their son's safety and welfare and have a right to want him protected.

    Please, don't give up on this.
     
  16. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    ohh i wont believe me - thats a good idea telling her parents though - they might bew able to get through to her, but i just dont want her to think im being a bitch and take it out on him, if that makes sense, i'm going to get a few people together and then talk to her parents and get to the bottom of this once and forall
     
  17. Hanzo Sword

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    Regardless of whether she thinks you're being a bitch by stepping in, she IS UNQUESTIONABLY being a bitch and shows signs of being a bad woman and a poor excuse for a human being in general. Any woman who feels entitled to hit a man likely has a larger personality disorder to address. And society needs to stop making violence by women against men (slapping, scratching, punching, kicking them in the groin) a cause for comedy in movies and on TV. It only encourages this sort of behavior.

    So if it were me in your situation, I wouldn't give a damn WHAT she thinks. SHE is in the wrong. Not him. Not you. And she needs to be called on it and made to change her ways.
     
  18. wiggy

    wiggy Bitch

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    yeah thats true - i will do it cheers
     
  19. IronGoth

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    RE: And society needs to stop making violence by women against men (slapping, scratching, punching, kicking them in the groin) a cause for comedy in movies and on TV. It only encourages this sort of behavior

    Or making jokes about them being killed.
     
  20. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    one of my husband's coworkers was in the same situation. the little bitch would beat the hell out of him. he finally left her, thankfully. she was one fucking psycho.
     

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