Chris Wallace: Media Bias 'Astonishing'

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  1. da420

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    Chris Wallace: Media Bias 'Astonishing'





    "Fox News Sunday" host Chris Wallace said Friday that since leaving the mainstream networks behind to join Fox he's noticed an "astonishing" amount of biased reporting on the part of his former colleagues.

    "I came from the mainstream media and I didn't used to feel this way," Wallace told WRKO Boston radio host Howie Carr.

    In radio interviews he does to promote his Sunday broadcast, Wallace said, the questions he gets are almost always slanted against the Bush administration.

    "They always ask negative questions about George Bush [like] 'How much trouble is he in? What's this mess in Iraq?'"

    "I mean, it's quite astonishing to me."

    Wallace said that the success of Fox News is a direct result of bias in the so-called objective press. "Fox News wouldn't exist if it weren't for this kind of stuff going on in the mainstream media," he told Carr. "That's why people are fed up with that and want the antidote to it because they get it and they've gotten it for years - the so-called bias in the objective press."
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    Interesting read. Good points. Everyone is asking "what is Bush doing wrong" and reporting only the negatives. And, No one is asking or reporting what good things Bush has done, nor do they care. As long as the bad things that happen in the world are Bush's fault, nothing else matters, right?
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    Because Bush has not done one good thing, and for 4 goddamn years the media has been doing nothing but kissing his ass, i think it's about time their giving him some shit.
     
  3. da420

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    Although I value your opinion, I do view you as fairly ignorant in that statement. You are saying he has not done one thing right, right? I am against Bush, but even I am open minded enough to see things for what they are. Which is, that although no one person is perfect, no one person is 100% flawed either. I realise that anything Bush does the Bush "haters" jump on it, and they do not jump, or congratulate anything he has done right, that is why you do not hear about it. So, I can see how You have not seen one thing he has done. It is called media bias, and they have been doing it long before Bush, and it is not only slanted one way or the other, but almost all mainstream media is indeed slanted one way or another.
     
  4. Mind Gardens

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    maybe there would be less negative questions if we just got the truth. :rolleyes: the media has to make up for the bullshit that the white house feeds us everyday.
     
  5. matthew

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    You probably get more truth , than you imagine [from the white house].. you may not want it to be true..but i think you maybe suprised.

    I sound like i hold the 'truth' apologies..but from reading the information from the horses mouth..apposed to biases either way.. i think overall i know what i believe.. I do the same with the govermental information from my country also...

    The media have to prolong a story for a long period of time, as not too run out of 'news'.. so they 'spin' it left right and centre [pardon the pun].. It rotates every 30 minutes [approx] in the UK .
     
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    Truth about what?
     
  7. matthew

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    9/11 .... The reasoning behind the Iraq 'war'... heavens what else [​IMG]
     
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    We all know the terrorists flew into some buildings on 9/11...and of course the Iraq war is about money...so what other answers do they need?
     
  9. matthew

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    I don't think that is the 'truth' that is being asked for.. Terrorists may have flew [or maybe not- most of them are alive-apparently] into some buildings .. but who orchestrated and/or let it happen .. ?.. Of course Bush is not going to come out and put his hand up for it.. Though he does not have too, just come out and say his admin' failed on inteligence for the express reasons that they wished for it to happen..[not much to ask for].. Oh and admitting Al-qaeda is as puppet organisation run by another puppet [OBL] of the CIA..[or something along those lines].. that would go down well.

    I guess pre-empting the reply was rude [​IMG] [of me] we shall have to wait and see what 'truth', Mind Gardens wants..

    Of course the iraq war was about money , the never ending pockets of BUsh and his oil friends [i can't argue with that one] Its as clears as day.. thats what that little 'war' is about.
     
  10. Mind Gardens

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    the war, and wtf happend to Osama bin Laden, if we were really trying to catch him we would have by now, easily.
    the CIA leak, its funny how everytime Rove is involved in something, the person opposing him mysteriously has a scandal that can never quite be traced back to Rove, but you know damn well he had something to do with it, it's about time that guy got caught.
    Harriet Miers. seriously, there's nobody in the country who is better qualified to be on the supreme court? [​IMG]

    That is the truth I want from the people running the country.

    btw, I do realize that Bush would really hurt his own and his friends political careers if they told the truth, and I don't actually expect it to happen, and I know that in this country we know more than most countries get from their govt's, but damn it, the government of this country is supposed to work for the people; we don't elect them so they can serve their own business and career interests. that might be another thread though.
     
  11. matthew

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    I hope you took no offence...

    It probably is 'another thread'...

    Do you think you get influenced by the media ?..
     
  12. Mind Gardens

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    take offense to what?

    i agree with you about the media needing to make a story last longer than it needs to be. I cancelled my tv a few months ago, but I assume it's the same as it was. I can't stand when either one or both sides know they're full of it, or wrong and they just won't concede the point.

    Do I get influenced by the media? I try to keep up with the news when I can, and try to read beyond the spin (from both sides), and form an opinion. Usually the news just ends up pissing me off.
     
  13. matthew

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    Flagrantly pigeon holeing you with my other comments [aside from my first post]..

    No nothing has changed..but to be fair the BBC did [and sometimes do] good programes

    Though put out a crap press releases [that bore nothing to do with the actual programe] ...

    I will give you one guess what the media [even other departments of the BBC] leapt on ?? [Even though the comment was not of much actuality to reality ..].

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2005/10_october/06/bush.shtml

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/elusive_peace/

    That why i was wondering if you were influenced by the media.. because one of your posts came [or seemed to be] straight from sensationalist front pages with a touch of the 'daily show' rationale for hounding bush on his choices..
     
  14. Sera Michele

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    Of course people are going to jump all over Bush when he fucks up. But as far as praise for doing things right...why does he deserve special praise for just doing his job? Does he do so little right that we need to throw an ass-kissing party when it finally happens? I will happily bestow praise on George Bush if he ever goes above and beyond his expected preformance as president, but I have seen no area where he has done that yet.
     
  15. Sera Michele

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    Yeah, like Bush's "spontanious, unscripted" interviews with soldiers that ABC filmed them scripting...

    Or their fancy little town hall meetings where the only people let in are Bush ass-kissers who ask scripted questions and make scripted replies.

    Or how they said no one in the white house leaked Plame's name.

    Or how a "mission accomplished" banner was flying over GW's head as he proclamed the end of the Iraq war three months after it started.

    Oh I could go on and on...
     
  16. matthew

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    Media manipulation and putting out the right image etc is what everybody does.. Though remember it is the media spinning those same images and storys for there own agenda.. ABC i imagine ran both sides of that story..and your left with conflicting view points .. and can choose what you wanna believe ..

    Your aginst Bush..[as far as i can tell [​IMG]] so are not likely to notice or conscede the positive things his admin do... just the rhetoric the biased media spew out..

    I mean no offence, i have heard those things [your saying] before within the media..thats why i think people are influenced by the media..

    They don't need to know

    A good photo essay on how a some good cropping of an image can change it’s entire context. The Old Media pictureis close cropped to slice off any inconvenient details, leading viewers to have a very different view of an event from what was actually going on.


    http://orbital-mind-control-laser.net/leo/
     
  17. Sera Michele

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    You are trying to say it wasn't scripted when they have the soldiers practicing and being coached for the interview on film. They even scripted that little joke in the beginning about Bush recognizing the female soldier who was at the republican convention. They have on film question by question that the president was going to ask, and what they were instructing the soldiers answer's to be. Even FOX NEWS ran the story about the scripting of the supposedly spontanious interview.

    Jesus, I am sure you can download the bit somewhere. Both these links have video of the event. The woman that was coaching the soldiers even called it scripting:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/14/politics/14prexy.html
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172186,00.html


    You really seem to think you know a lot about things here in the states, don't you? Tell me, how much time have you spent here?
     
  18. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    I will give you this...Bush isn't really very in charge and pretty much all of his decisions are ordered upon him, so by the media blaming everything on bush when they should really be looking at his entire administration and their connections with israel and saudi arabia, they are in a way covering up a lot, Bush is just a nice easy scapegoat for those neocon PNAC guys....
     
  19. hippypaul

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    I am not a Bush supporter by any means. However, I think too much is being made of the scripting issue. Every time we had a command level officer visit a unit I was in, they told us what he was going to ask and told us who was going to answer. That was so no one stood there with their mouth open and made the unit look bad. It was not about making the visitor look good.
     
  20. matthew

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    Let me start again... I do not doubt it was rehearsed and i am sure ABC did run both the front end [as if it was not rehearsed].. and the expose of it being rehearsed .. i dunno. What i was trying [badly] to say was that media manipulation is something that goes on [to varying degrees of deception].. hippypaul has pre-empted me.. it was just so it was not awkward..'putting out the right image etc' ....
    Manipulation might be a strong term, but that has many levels i guess. Manipulating as to give a good image and the soldiers look articulate or scripted as to what they say.. I think the manipulation was to give them a break they are not profesional speakers [are they]..

    even the article you posted say:

    White House press secretary Scott McClellan (search) said Thursday's event was coordinated with the Defense Department but that the troops were expressing their own thoughts. With satellite feeds, coordination often is needed to overcome technological challenges, such as delays, he said.

    "I think all they were doing was talking to the troops and letting them know what to expect," he said, adding that the president wanted to talk with troops on the ground who have firsthand knowledge about the situation.

    Depending on how you view it..and how it is presented [hence my attempt to show that point with the bit at the bottom of my post].. You can create many different 'truths'.

    I watched it on our news ..

    No...no time at at all... media is media. We had 'anchors' in shallow waters on our news broadcasts during 'katrina' [because of the risk factor] .. claiming to be in deep water..but that had already occured in the states so they made light of it and incoporated it into the segment...

    I was just trying to get over too much in a short post..
     
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