Tchaikovsky

I can't believe nobody has started a thread yet about the greatest composer ever!!!! I said alot fo stuff about hima few minutes ago in another thread, and decided to start my own. His best song in my opinion, was the really famous song "The Nutcracker." I also have always loved Russia and its history as well, ESPECIALLY the Russian revolution with Czar Nikolas, Anastasia, Rasputin and all that stuff.

 

I LLLOVVEE Tchaikovsky. I never used to like modern music. All I would listen to, before I turned 17, would be either Tchaikovsky, Beethoven, or Mozart.
Then I discovered Les Beatles.
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You're welcome. Yes, I like Tchaikovsky. I used to listen to a lot of classical music too. That was before Simon and Garfunkel, Cat Stevens, the Gipsy Kings, and, ultimately, the first Beatle Resurrection.

 

Most of Tchaicovsky is a bit too lightweight for my tastes. I quite like his 9th symphony and the violin concerto. But the ballet music is really the 19th c equivalent of Rogers and Hammerstien.

Tchaikovsky is a romantic and not a classical composer.

 

I recently aquired some tchaik piano music...you know that really famoose one that starts A, G sharp C sharp in double octaves and is well....really famous....? even if you don't know it-magnificent and such a deserving challenge on the ivories

 

Musically speaking the Nutcracker Suite is one of his less impressive pieces. He hated it in fact. I think his violin concerto in D is stunning, if only I could ever hope to play it haha.

 

Well I think that the Classical forum is made for pretty much any style of music from the years 1600-1900. There were TONS of different styles in those years, but nowadays all of that is generally just considered as "Classical." I've always liked Baroque best out of all of the "older" styles, as well as polka, and folk music from pretty much any European country.

He hated it? That' strange, I can't imagine why. I know that the Nutcracker isn't instrumentally as good as others, but it appeals to me more because of personal tastes. Music doesn't have to be super-technical to be good you know. At the same time, I usually can't stand music that is very simple and repetitive. There are always exceptions to that though of course. Alot of times some of the greatest songs ever written are only in one key, with not much variation. I think that if you limit your writing and make "rules" on how technical it should be, then you'll always just end up unhappy in the end, because music is the expression of emotions... not a competition to be the "best."

I like the Violin concerto alot as well. What I never understood is why most Concertos always had many other instruments with emphasis on their own lead parts as well... I mean, it's the equivalent of one of today's bands playing a guitar solo. Isn't a Concerto supposed to focus on one primary instrument?

 

Ive never been the greatest fan of Tchaikovsky, I find most of his music bland and over-melodramatic. Simply cannot listen to his ballet suites, Nutcracker included. He hated pretty much all his work, as he intensely hated himself which really isnt a good attitude. He is good though, but you could not honestly call him the greatest composer ever.

 

If you liked The Nutcracker (one of my favs) try Sleeping Beauty.

 

one of my favorite pieces is Tchaikovsky's violin concerto....

 

His own friends didn't like him much and thought he should snuff himself (AND talked him into it) cause he was gay.

 

His brother was gay too.

 

What is the point in saying all of these negative things about him? Exactly what are you tring to do? o_0

 

Tchaikovsky did suffer a lot with his homosexuality, that's what they're talking about. He actually got married once, and felt so guilty about lying to himself, that on his honeymoon, he tried to kill himself by jumping in to a freezing river. They pulled him out, and the marriage was annulled. The great impresario, Diaghilev, once remarked: "Tchaikovsky once thought of commiting suicide for fear of being discovered a homosexual; but today, if you are a composer and not a homosexual, you might as well put a bullet through your head."

I think his symphonies were rather poor, but then, I'm not a big fan of symphonies in general. His ballets I have never liked, not being a big ballet fan, either. His piano concertos are absolutely superb, though, as was "Concert Fantasy", and as someone has already remarked, his works for violin are remarkable.

Oh, and someone earlier in the thread said they liked Tchaikovsky's ninth symphony... but he only did six proper symphonies. Just thought I'd mention that.

 

You assume I think gay is a bad thing.

I was more referring to the private hell he endured with even his friends telling him to kill himself.

 

Just to be pedantic, the Nutcracker is not a "song" it is a "ballet"...

...and Tchaikovsky only composed six symphonies!

 

Looks like everybody just ignored me post. I thought it was pretty good...

 

Indeed it was...just thought I'd back you up on the number of symphonies point.

 

Tchaik 9th....sounds alot like John Cage's 4'33....or however long it was

i played some tchaik in orchestra the other day, man it's hard!

 

He Didn't Do A "ninth" Symphony!