Inexperienced psychonaut needs advice

ive recently decided to try and experiment with some of the more obscure tryptamines and phens out there and i'm unsure where to start, what is good, where to buy from, how much should i pay BTW i live in the UK if that affects sources etc

Ok my experience with drugs up to this point are:
cannabis- try eating a gram or two of skunk with more than a month between doses to eliminate tolerance. it produces proper psychedelic experiences that in my opinion are comparable in intesity to mushrooms or mescaline, OEVs and everything.
alcohol
salvia divinorum-ill never forget my first ever level 5 on this stuff
Magic mushrooms
DXM
Mescaline
Ecstacy
Nitrous
Diphenhydramide
Nutmeg
Codeine-i'm a non responder sadly, i reckon i lack the enzyme which converts it into morphine
Ephedrine
Fly agaric
Overall a decent mix of stims, downers and psychedelics but im quickly getting bored of what ive tried and acid is practically impossible to get which only leaves coke and speed of what is commonly available to try and by all accounts they aren't great.

 

Don't ya wanna get hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh-a... Not to hate on you or anything but just looking around for different stuff to get you fucked up all the time, no matter what it is, is only going to bring you down.

I'm not here to make your decisions though. If you're looking for a powerful psychedelic, I suggest 2c-e. In terms of intensity I'd say it can give ellis d a run for her money. It lasts a bit long, and there is usually a bit of stomach discomfort that disappears for most after come up. It may possibly be the strongest psychedelic experience you have had at only 15 mg's or so.. try it if you're down with intensity.

 

ok so how much should i pay for 2-CI? and where should i buy it from, china US europe?

 

1. Cannabis doesn't give Open eyed visuals beyond perception changes...

2. What the hell is a level 5?

3. Try DOC, DOI, 2cc, 2ce, 4homipt, and use shrooms with an MAOI.

 

Level 5 is a term to describe a very intense trip (more like +++++) but whos cares.
As for dude that needs to know what drugs to do.....
first find some ppl you trust and a good setting to do them in
start with MDMA
then work your way to DMT

 

AFAIK, the shulgin scale goes up to 4.

 

Shulgin goes to +4; Level 1-5 is the Shroomery scale, and is used to represent experiences concerning serotongenic compounds, not kappa-opiod agonists (like salivnorin), which would be more appropriately rated on the dissociative scale, Plateau 1-3 (or 4, maybe? Not terribly familiar with those compounds)...

 

Just to clarify a bit…

Daniel Siebert has a 6-Point scale that goes S-A-L-V-I-A. It can be found here:

http://www.sagewisdom.org/faq.html

Shulgin has a well known +’s scale that can be found here:

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/shulgin_rating_scale.shtml

Graeme Carl has a 5-point scale that is designed to rate LSD / Psilocybin mushroom. It can be found here:

http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Graeme/intro.html

And last but not least… I even made my own scale to compare one psychoactive to another. It can be found here:

http://forums.lycaeum.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=13&t=003185



There are of course more scales than this, but they are usually used in research and/or not commonly encountered. Hope this provides some clarification.

IB

 

i was referring to the salvia scale
S-subtle perception
A-acute perception
L-light visionary
V-visionary
I-immaterial(out of body)
A-amnesiac

 

I´d stay away from buying from US suppliers at the moment. There are 2 good suppliers in Europe and a handful in Japan and Hong Kong.
For a gram of 2C-I, you normally shouldn´t pay more than US$ 120. Same for 2C-E.