okay, I used to get angry quite a lot and frankly when I was young I had a problem with my temper, for the most part now I d o not get angry that often and usually when I do it's a very cold, cutting cruel anger, not explosive or phyically violent at all, and something that I can more or less body check into the back of my psyche but lately I have had three spikes of utter consuming rage, and we are not just talking basic angry rage, we are talking my vision clouding, my brain becoming muzzy, all of my muscles tensing and just becoming incredibly primal I can still body check it if you will out of my primary mode of thought, but I can feel some kind of precipice nearby when I am in this state and frankly it is not something I would like to test falling over anyone else ever had this sort of thing (and please do not give me shit about repressing my emotions, I'm working on not doing it, but at this point it has become a problem and I now have to gradually release all this emotion in a gradual healthy way else it consume me in a horribly destructive way)
I used to be the same way. Not SO much anymore, but it still happens ... After my dad and I would get into a fight (and I don't mean argument), I'd sit up in my room getting super pissed off and fuming at him, and I'll be all red in the face and pumped up and fiercely angry, and he'd say something stupid like "if that's how angry you get then you need to go to anger management," when he was the reason I was constantly angry. I still hate him, but going to college and getting away from it all has helped me deal with the rage a lot better. I never let it burst out of me, but I know how you feel about that precipice, where it feels like you're just about to explode and open up a can of nukular whoop ass on someone.
Count yourselves lucky, that rage can be a very good thing, atleast the spirit in you is still alive.
Perhaps, but anger can be focused, and it use to be my energy and now it's gone and i cant get it back, sometimes i feel like i may have died along time ago.
yeah man ive got alot of the same shit. most of the time im a nice person but when i get mad i can sometimes cause alot of harm to people both physically and emotionally. I had a huge problem when i was younger but now that im on meds it helps, but i hate taking them because i feel like im not actually ME when im on them. Its almost like i have to be held under control to be able to function in this society, and its kind of stupid because i dotn even WANT to be in this society. owell not much i can do about it right now except hitchhike to cali
are you stupid ? he just said it's completely destructive in every way and comes in the wrong situation. and the spirit has nothing to do with that, it's your reptilian brain that overides all higher functions. it's not like this energy is channeled somewhere.
Antimatter, have you read Joseph Chilton Pearce or Bruce Lipton? Hey guys.. Reading your posts about anger spurred me to think abouut emotions, and how little control over them we have. Sure, a lot of the time we can control our response/actions in regards to them, but we can't stop feeling them unless we drug ourselves or work really hard on numbing ourselves, and at that point it isn't that we stop feeling them, it's that we're much less concious of our feelings. I get angry sometimes, however, I wouldn't say it's a huge issue for me. What is big in my life is anxiety. Anxiety and fear. Around certain people, or when I'm making certain decisions, or then I'm in a particular atmosphere, I get intense feelings of fear in my gut... actually I think around my pituitary gland, to be precise. What I've found is that the way to heal these feelings, is simply to give my attention to them. Listen. Feel. So often I don't pay attention to whatever is happening in this moment, that my body just screams louder to be heard. When I actually sit down in a place that is easiest for me to focus in, and guide my attention to wherever and whatever I'm feeling, without trying to figure it out or get rid of it, it transforms. --Into tears, into insight,into peace, or into compassion.
that was a good post, white ginger. i think that this is an interesting thread.... a common struggle for males, it seems. i know of very few females who ever feel that all-consuming rage that many men describe. i have brothers, and i understand that sometimes (infrequently), they can grow so angry that they honestly don't see straight. they don't hit or anything, though my youngest brother once grabbed me hard on my upper arms when i was little. but the amount of sheer rage that males seem to be able to withstand is something that females don't usually, or very rarely experience. myself, i will become very angry to a certain point, and then i seem to just crack and give up. like white ginger said, the more common thing for females to battle is anxiety. sorry if i've taken your thread a little off-track, it just got me thinking. i think that the only thing you or anyone can do is find a way to control your emotions. the same with white ginger and her anxiety, and anyone else, this probably comes with experience and age. you are still young. as you grow older, you will learn to hold your head up and not give in to the emotions sweeping through you. 'temper tantrums' are not only characteristic of toddlers; i think that many older people experience them, and that helpless feeling that comes with them. true maturation is overcoming the desire to give in to a temper tantrum. this might come at 16, or 25, or 39, 55 or even never. don't we all know of adults who can't resist a temper tantrum? patience is a somewhat rare and very admirable quality in a person, a testament to their strength. on another note, hikaru - i absolutely hate it how it's become to popular to say "get anger management" during arguments. my mom used to say this to me too, when we were having very calm, rational discussions! it's a terrible brush-off, and i can't stand it. the same with "pff, whatever," or "suuure, oook." it definitely has the power to make you even more irate, if you let it. it takes a strong character to keep breathing there, maintain perspective and stay above his anger. love,
Ok, sure i agree for techie it is a problem and i dont have a solution however i was just comparing to my own personal experiances. Like most here have said when they were younger they felt an extreme amount of rage, i am included in this catagory. Later in life I decided however to chanel that energy into something productive (weight lifting) and it was very beneficial, then a year later i quit and started running using the same energy. Now for me personally i dont have much anger but instead i am anxious, i dont have the same energy that i used to turn in to a creative outlet, it feels like i am somewhat less of who i use to be, granted in some ways for the better but for the most part i miss it, i miss feeling so much rage that i could push myself to do what ever i decided i wanted to do. So if techie can channel this anger then i do stick by what i said that he is still lucky to have that energy.
I think I'm goint to try a little harder to describe this anger, because I have felt intense anger before and lashed out, this is something that is leagues beyond my normal class of consuming anger, first off my brain starts to feel as though certain pathways are being turned off and others activated, then I start to feel as though very much literally my brain is engulfed in a black haze, then my vision begins to tunnel and the only thing I can coherently focus on is that thing which has been the cause of my anger, all the while my body tenses and I begin to breathe somewhat faster, my thinking processes accelerate and generally by this point I am trying to break out of this state because I can feel the precipice nearing, normally to "emotionally body check it" I will take a memory that embarrased me at the time, it forces all my emotion inward quickly and effieciently a desperate need to destroy is entirly consuming while I am in this state and it's just horrible and yes I know the rapping myself on the nose with an emotional newspaper isn't a good idea either, but it works
I used to have a horrible temper, cried alot. Today I got really mad at the game, but I don't show my anger anymore. When I am angry, I feel like I want to start shouting. Its really bad for my heart to feel that way for along time but I can't help it when people are being stupid.
the amygdala produces fear and anger. it is pretty much the most primitive feeling one can get, and is stimulated by the same things, however whether you are angry or scared depends on how you see your status compared to the object of the emotion. one would think that anger should make you more precise in movements and such, as a survival skill? unfortunately (and fortuantely i ncertain cases) this is not the case. judgement over actions, and fine motor movements are neglected in the case of fear and anger, which stimulate gross movements, such as attacking with all your force, or pissing off with all your energy, or totally freezing still, or lashing out with roars and bodily gestures. when angry, you feel less pain, and exert more force, however you cannot plan your actions as well, or even percieve your environment properly, because these are functions of the cerebral cortex, and its this which is basically blocked when fear or anger come into play. why is it blocked? well simply because fear and anger is sort of.. beneath the higher functions, as if theyre at a choke point in your brain, and when teh amygdala is activated, it takes precedence over other functions simply because its at the basest level of thought. notice animals have gross movements in general, they run, they jump, they lunge, etc. they act on instinctive movements. humans on the other hand have evolved/are designed to use their higher level functions to make fine, personally developed movements. when angry, one will find themselves making instinctive lunges and the like instead of more well thought out attack strategies. the reason animals seem to have terrific accuracy and success when using anger, yet humans often end up an angry heap is because as humans we arent as used to using our anger as a tool, its something we supress, and is therefor out of practice for most of us. notice fine structured fighitng techniques however such as martial arts require one to remove anger and the like. humans are the only animals who can do martial arts because it requires complete abandoment of instinct and primal thought, and total swtich to cerebral perceptions and actions, on the spot improvisation of technique (interpreting enemy stance, trend, force, etc). anger is not a good thing unless you want to do primitive things like gross muscle movements or violent attacks. i used to have a bad temper, however one technique i used to reduce this was that when i felt angry and wanted to destroy something, instead of actually destroying something like many people do, i tried to destroy indestructable things like metal bars and the like, or a metal pen, etc. this helped by linking the a result of anger to the feeling of anger. it linked failure with anger, instead of success. i just got angry less. i had once seen anger as somethign that i could achieve things with but i never really did, so by getting my subconscious to believe this too, i am a less angry person nowadays. cept to my mum. ive also got an interpretation of anger in terms of dopaminergic channels, somethign i havent yet linked in with brain structure concerning amygdala, and this post is long enough
you seem to ignore the fact that I am trying to not repress my emotions..... I have that down cold if I really wish to do it, and it doesn't require associations, it simply requires brute force control, at least in my case could be because my brain is a fair sight different from yours thanks to the autism and epilepsy..
what do you mean you are trying to not repress your emotions? which part of your case do you not see fitting into this model? edit: sorry you are referring to my proposed solution. i wasnt really suggesting for that, i was just including it since we are in the topic lol. my technique probably would not be nearly as effectrive for someone in the autistic-spectrum
associations are different in my part of the world and I have a misshappen corpus collosum... which I suppose must affect a great deal of how I see the world....
at least you can communicate on a public forum is your corpus irregularity a cause of your epilepsy, result of it, result of treatment, or unrelated?
I have had anger in my life, mostly deeply repressed though. I use to make me very unruly. ANd i lashed out at people espically bullies, i guess now i'm kind of one but back to the point. NOt to say that i'm handling my emotions in the right way, but i do release a lot of my anger in sports. I play football and i'm a lineman so i get to hit alot of people every day, but i find that even though i burn off my steam i have a core of anger that is inside of me this anger is so intence that i usally turn it to sadness to calm me down, i almost lost control with my sweltering anger (read "rape from every angle (get your mind out of the gutter") ) but now i usally burn my steam by wandering the streets at night it keeps me focus so i don't have to think and i have't really hurt anybody and thinking about hurting helps me stay in check. It is not the right soultuion but it my solution i guess but doing that ties in with a lot more then just my anger but i had to respond becuse (read that thread i describe before) when i felt so similar to you. P.s. i try to describe this before becuse it is something very primial in guys but i guess my other assocted ideas push people away
