Stoney - I fail to see how criticising Muslim rioters is racist. Suggesting all Muslims are rioters, yes. But I fail to see where I've committed that logical error. Problem is, Stoney, the moment the French round these vermin up and put em on planes, they'll pull out the "you're a racist! he's a racist! racist! racist!" chant which for some reason causes people to undergo cognitive surrender in some places. RE: when you call them muslims, you've criticised their faith Oh, my apologies. The folks burning down Paris are MORMON, not Muslim. Right? And you seem to not comprehend that I am not suggesting all Muslims think alike. When I see Catholic vs Protestant violence in Ireland, I say it's a Christian conflict - and I will often talk of people like the abortion clinic bomber in those terms. But just because I call them Muslim doesn't mean I'm slandering all of Islam. Islam has Sunni and Shiite to start off with, never mind the Wahabbist, etc. sects therein. Roman Catholicism isn't Episcopalianism, but both are Christian. Dig? RE: this violence is not just a muslim thing, its the north african "scum" that has dared to look its master in the eye - demandin they be treated with respect, demandin they get equal rights. Excuse me, since when are the Northern Africans in France slaves to the white majority? They decided to pick up roots and move to France, they got what they got out of it, and they can't torch Paris because they're unhappy with how it turned out. RE: if you've been to france, you'd know how the invaders treat their former slaves With that kind of rhetoric, according to Dolphin picture boy, you're a racist.
RE: but they are not human if they disagree with your own beliefs There's something in the Koran about that if I remember correctly - you're blameless for killing an infidel, that kind of thing. But then again, some people believe in and follow that part of the Koran, some of them don't.
I apologize to you KC and stoney: racism IS to blame for the French riots http://www.waronjihad.org/france070405.html A bas les "petits blancs" "capitulards!"
When people are poor, hungry, neglected, called scum, and treated anything less then EQUAL to any other HUMAN BEING they act out and pick up rocks-burn and then Guns! It's called REVOLUTION. Something that will be happening here very soon in the good old USA.
What's interesting is at first they were welcomed. They arrived, were hardworking and lived cheek to jowl with professionals. Their kids, however, became drug dealing, violent robbing and pillaging vermin in short order.
yep. everyone is racist, even the rioters. it's all a matter of how angry you are in what you do. it behooves one to keep that in mind when marginalizing people.
*shrugs* By that same argument we should never jail people who steal cause it's our fault as a society that they don't have what they want.
i don't think so. though i know some here do. but a lotta these people being terrorized by ticked of black muslim kids are the very ones that wouldn't give one a job if their life depended on it. and apparently it does. lol. crazy world we live in.
RE: but a lotta these people being terrorized by ticked of black muslim kids are the very ones that wouldn't give one a job if their life depended on it. Vicious circle, really. They terrorize the French, who don't give them jobs, so they complain they don't have jobs and therefore have the right to riot. France is NOT a racist nation. They take that PC stuff seriously over there.
everyone is racist. we're incapable of having no biases. it's just not humanly possible. PC doesn't mean they really feel it, and i don't care how polite someone is being to me, i KNOW when they would rather i take a flying leap.
I have biases but they're based on actions, not innate things like race. I think Klansmen are cowards. By their actions. For example.
sorry, i used racist when i was intending biased or elitist or whatever. you can't help the fact that if you have little to no interaction with a certain group of people, you're not going to be comfortable in their presence, and you're going to prefer people you're more comfortable with. usually those people are people who look and act like you. unconscious beliefs that someone may not be up to your standards or even someone you can get along with are inevitable, even though they may be incorrect. and since that's inevitable, so are riots like this. SOMEONE is always at the bottom of the pile. i don't care what anyone opines on the subject. but once you've got enough on the bottom of the pile, they're gonna tear some shit up.
I do believe this is the first time I've ever read an entire 14 page, 133 post thread in one sitting.... I always try to put myself in the other person's shoes, and at times I've been a pretty pissed off motherfucker, because I've been mugged, stabbed, shot...my place has been stolen from, my woman has been fucked behind my back and I've been flat out fucking broke to the point where I've had no home.... But at no time, whatsoever, have I made the decision to go out into the streets and start burning down my fucking neighborhood. Thats just the way it is. If life is not treating you the way you expected, work harder. If that doesn't work, you, and only you are doing something wrong. If you live in a shit assed country that fucks their citizens on a daily basis, move somewhere else. Walk if you have to. It's been done before. When you find a place to be, don't burn it down.
I mean, my god, rodney king legitimatly got his ass kicked, these dumbfucks ran into a god forsaken transformer, and did enough fucking around to get themselves killed (yes I know "police were chasing them" but fuck, that shit is insulated to hell and back, they had to do something horribly stupid to die from that my god every one of those rioters is a dumbass simply for choosing those martyrs......