My saturday evening in town.

Jeg er ikke ude på at fornærme din religion, men siger du ikke selv indirekte at han er en piktyv når han vil stjæle min tiller?

Jeg synes at der er et kæmpe paradoks at spore hos disse såkaldte liberalister. De siger, at de tror på forskellighed, men det eneste der kommer ud af at have dem ved magten er at folk bliver ensrettet - tænker ens, handler ens, ligner hinanden. Kort fortalt bliver et liberalistisk samfund et røvkedeligt samfund, hvor enhver form for individuel genialitet forhånes og udraderes. De sætter alle midler ind for at folk ikke skal rotte sig sammen og stå imod dem. Enten tør folk ikke længere eller også er de ganske enkelt blevet for konforme & dovne. Under alle omstændigheder er samfundet i krise, og regeringen synes selvfølgelig at det er pragtfuldt!

Systemet gør alt hvad der står i dets magt til at forhåne enhver der stiller sig op og siger "jamen, kejseren har jo intet tøj på", for nu at anvende en slidt kliché i dette hersens h.c.andersen-år. Fogh og company gør alt hvad der står i deres magt til at værne om jantelov og reaktionær smålighed.

Jeg tror desværre at jeg er gået glip af et par afsnit af Dolph & Wullf, men forleden fik jeg set "Dolph & Wullf på bondegård". Jeg skreg af grin. Man kan kun holde af den fucked up flodhest! :-D (igen igen: "you have included too many smileys...")

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Næh, det antydede jeg slet ikke Og fornærm du bare min religion... Laver sq også selv grin med den

Tja, man kan sige... Regeringen vil gerne at folk er forskellige og tænker individuelt, de vil bare gerne bestemme hvor forskellige og hvad vi skal tænke... Regeringer bliver formet og står til der endelig er en mand der samler folket og råber ordet revolution, folk lytter hvis de har en leder... Vi er en flok får, ikke andet, ynkeligt kvæg...
Men regeringen har fået gjort hvad de gerne vil, hvad en hver god leder gerne vil... De har fået folk til at være som de vil ha' dem, og på samme tid har fået dem til at tro at de selv har lavet ting some de er, og at ting derfor a gode...

Men så hjerne vasket som folk generalt er kan man sq ikke rigtig gøre noget ved det, anarkisme, udskifteligt lederskab eller fuldstændigt demokrati (af med folketinget og prøv faktisk at lade folket bestemme), virker så langt væk... Lorte verden!

Men ja, så jeg også lige I går... Det er så fedt, men bondegården var faktisk kun afsnit 2
Du kan se afsnit 1 lige her:
mms://wms.dr.dk/storage/forbrug/livsstil/dolph/uds01_std+500.wmv

 

Vi bliver sgu nødt til at tro på, at der er håb forude, Lakshen. Ellers kan vi ikke samle kræfterne til at gøre modstand og sige "nu må det sgu være nok!".

Jeg kan godt lide din betragtning over at regeringen ønsker forskellighed, men at de bare gerne vil have kontrol over hvad denne forskellighed skal indebære.

Jeg er for såvidt også enig i din betragtning om, at folket er gjort så dovent, at der behøves et ikon til at lede dem ud af søvnen. Jeg kan nævne mange eksempler. Af de mest citerede: Martin Luther King og Mahatma Gandhi. Af de knap så "stuerene", men dog populære: Malcolm X og Che Guevarra.

Fælles for alle fire eksempler på modige mænd, der førte an i et oprør mod et urimeligt tyranni er, at de indfandt sig i samfund præget af stærke krisesymptomer. Vi har behov for ikoner som kan organisere og samle folket, men min pointe er, at disse ikoner ikke opstår ud af den blå luft. De manifesterer sig først i det øjeblik, hvor der opstår et konkret behov for oprør blandt masserne.

Tag som eksempel hvad der sker i Frankrig i disse dage. Gendarmerne jagede et par unge mænd ud over en højspændingsmast over en sporbane. Dette resulterede i optøjer i de dybt ghettoiserede parisiske forstæder, og oprøret tenderer til at brede sig til resten af Frankrig (og måske senere, resten af Europa).

Selvfølgelig forsøger den franske regering at italesætte krisen som "optøjer udført af skarnsknægte & bøller", men i bund og grund viser optøjerne sig som sociale symptomer på en social krise i det franske samfund.
Der er ikke tale om "bøller" eller "skarnsknægte", men der er simpelthen tale om unge mennesker som er godt og grundig trætte af at blive trådt på - gang på gang på gang. For at blive hørt brænder de biler af, og på sin vis synes jeg fandeme at det er et sundhedstegn at de reagerer mod systemet, fremfor bare at sætte sig hen i en krog og se latterlige realityshows.

Det eneste de mangler er en leder, som kan omsætte indignationen og frustrationen til konkrete politiske krav. Og det skal nok ske - før eller siden.
Så på den måde er jeg enig med dig, men jeg mener ikke at det er lederne der skaber oprøret - det er det uundgåelige oprør der skaber lederne.

Tak for linket, forøvrigt!

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damn thats bad stuff - the police in england are the same though - well some of them, i dont see the point of being rude - some people just are!!

 

I was helped by a nice police officer at a festival when I realised I had no money to get home. He offered his phone to me and gave me a lift to where the buses leave and asked the man in charge if I could get home for free.


So please, your story was interesting but don't spread this sort of hate around. Some police are assholes, so are some hippies too..so don't paint everyone with the same brush .

 

The thread was written in an effect of frustration, right after I had a bad experience with cops. I have also experienced kind policemen, and everytime it happens I cheer up, because I see it as a hope that authority doesn't necessarily mean oppression. But unfortunately these experiences are quite seldom...

It's not my intention to spread hatred towards certain individuals who are cops. But if you view the police as a societal institution, their function is nothing but to keep law & order. And I allow myself to question which kind of law & order we want. Do we want to define law & order as to protect the tax-payers ( + consumers) and fuck the rest? In case I'm really scared of the kind of law & order we're having in contemporary DK and elsewhere in Europe... (especially to see how stronger the oppression of the french government is, right at the moment, the more fuel to the poor and oppressed living in forgotten suburbs of Paris... They're angry, and they want fire - wouldn't you, in their shoes!?)

My notion about "police as the enemy of the people" was ment as police as an institution, not as any single policemen. Some cops are nice, others are cruel because they're weak because they're too much under influence by an institution with a wrong conception of what its agenda in community is. The cops I met that day was not nice... (and that was not for a change...)

That was my point. I'm not gonna kill any cops or something like that... (but still I believe in a social & political revolution, and that's definately not equal to be spreading hatred, nor to incite violence & violent riots).

France is just another symptom of a society which needed a peaceful political revolution long time ago, but as always the few men in power never give it up. If they weren't that greedy, we'd had a peaceful France today. The riots are nothing but symptoms of an unjust society.
Everyone must be careful not to blame the wrong people...

Thanks for your criticism.

love and understanding,
-wolf.

 

I see your point. It's just a pitty things like this at the moment.

 

Dear JethroZoso - my choice of words might have been wrong - okay. Let's not hang in one single word then. "Enemy" is a strong word, but what would you say if I'd said "police is a threat to the people" from the beginning? (which might've been in better correspondence to what I was supposed to mean, unbiased for the frustrations I felt at that very moment?).

Maybe some single SS-officers were also nice, but as a whole the institution was a threat to peace and to all the people. In that moment that couldn't be too late to call them what they are. Imo, it's dangerous not to name the fascist mechanisms in society for what they are, if not now!! Since especially in this age, we're in deep shit, and it's not because of the people who want to revolve the tyranny - contemporary danger of fascism origins from the people who think everything is 'just fine' (just like people who thought Hitler was "not that bad" brought him to power in the 30's, despite they didn't voted for him)... (People thinking it's 'just fine' nowadays are not necessarily fascists, but they allow fascist & totalitarian tendencies to grow in society, unchallenged).

So I don't see why it's 'pity' that I mention these things (if that's what you ment by your reply - if you ment something else, please explain (cuz I'm not 100% sure. )). But anyway - thanks for your reply, once again!

love and understanding,

=wolf=

 

Thanks for your reply, Wolf.


I meant I agree with what you say. It's a pitty that these people ruin it for everyone else and yet the nicer people have to share a uniform with the bad. I think it's great that you point them out this problem and people do need to stand up. In Ireland we have this problem of not complaining when there's a problem. Even if it's something on a smaller scale like bad service in a restaurant.

I look forward to reading your future posts

PEACE !

 

Likewise, Jethro!

And it's strange, since I've always had the imagination that the irish society was quite openminded, despite the strong power of the catholic church. I've always had the imagination that irish people were characterized as being very independent somehow (and once to travel around in Ireland with my tent is one among my many dreams!).
Aren't their deep roots of independent mentality in the irish culture & spirit, behind the thin layer of church control? In which degree does celtic cultural origin in Ireland matter for the way people live, compared to the obstacles religion puts on them?

love,

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