hypothetical question

Discussion in 'Vegetarian' started by Deleted member 17362, Nov 22, 2005.

  1. what if you found out tomorrow that vegetables legitimatly felt pain

    obviously not going to happen, but just as a hypothetical

    what if....
     
  2. Fifty9

    Fifty9 Member

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    I would keep eating vegetables; I am, after all an herbivore.
     
  3. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Well ...

    If they legitimately felt pain, that would mean there is some sort of consciousness there, some sort of individual ego, that can feel pain.

    This would mean tomatoes would be sentient (self-aware) since they can feel their own pain. In which case, they'd have the same inalienable rights (the right to life, freedom, etc.) as all other sentient beings.

    I'd cease eating them unless I had to to survive (which I'd eat meat to survive too).
     
  4. Kastenfrosch

    Kastenfrosch Blaubeerkuchen!! Lifetime Supporter

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    I personally believe that plants must have some sort of feelings. But, through eating no meat, I am reducing suffering. I can't avoid suffering, so I will reduce it, because I have to live on something too. I reduce suffering by not eating meat, because the serving of meat needs a lot more plant input, as if I would just the plants myself. I read once, that the loss of energy from one level of the food chain to another is around 80-90%. So if I eat a piece of cow, I acutally eat about 10 times as many plants, then if I would just eat the plants myself directly.
     
  5. 3littlebirds

    3littlebirds Member

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    I would still eat them.
    People need them to survive. People do not need meat to survive. If I couldn't live with out them, then yeah, I'd eat them. Even if they felt pain, getting picked and eaten is nowhere near the pain that "meat" goes through.
    And, since tomatoes, avacadoes, peppers, etc are technically the "fruits" of the plant...I wouldn't have to kill the plant to eat them.
    :)
     
  6. NovaStarwind

    NovaStarwind Member

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    I get told that by all my stupid meat-eating "friends" and my dad all the time! "Well, didn't you know that vegetables feel pain too? You're murdering the poor vegetables, Nova!!!!" It really gets on my nerves. But yeah, I think I would still eat vegetables even if they felt pain. I mean, there's no real evidence that they do, and they don't look at you with their intelligent eyes before they're killed.

    ~Nova
     
  7. lebekia

    lebekia Member

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    I hear you! jees they think it's funny aswell and okay first time you hear it, it's a li'l bit funny..but it gets old. That's my rant ha.

    I don't hear it so much anymore 'cos I'm not killing anything. I only eat what falls off the trees in our back garden and my neighbours except for nuts. oh jees what if they feel haha.

    take it easyx
     
  8. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    you eat your neighbours?

    seriously, Questie:
    I'd still have an herbavore diet because it takes far less veggies to feed me than a sheep that then is killed for consumption and we still have veggie side dishes.
    Limiting the resource and the destruction.
     
  9. lebekia

    lebekia Member

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    lol yes:D punishment for the "you know veggies feel don't ya?" question.:p

    joking but it is a good idea:H
     
  10. wizarddrew77

    wizarddrew77 The Wiz

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    [​IMG]
    What about The Lambs?
    The Silence of the Lambs?
     
  11. wizarddrew77

    wizarddrew77 The Wiz

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    How about since everything has a spirit to just thank them for helping you live?
    You know? Give thanks.
    Is that a problem for you guys?
     
  12. verseau_miracle

    verseau_miracle Banned

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    I give thanks. I know thisll sound totally weird but i dont give a crap, what the hell...i thank vegetables. There, i said it. Well, i dont necessarily always thank the vegetable. But always when im preparing food i think about where it came from and how glad i am to be eating it...and to me thats a form of thanks.
    I DO believe these things have spirit inside them. They have a certain energy when you hold them...but to me this energy seems completely different to animal or human energy.
    In answer to the original question-if vegetables had feelings i would eat them but feel horribly guilty about it. I still wouldnt eat animals as i would still believe in the difference between animal spirit and other forms of energy. Also, my motivation behind bein veg has a LOT more to it than not wanting to cause the animals pain, even if this is a big concern.

    Xx
     
  13. Edward G.

    Edward G. Edwardson

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    killing veggies is wrong :(

    just less wrong than killing animals :D
     

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