an interesting read from Aljazeera.net - American Hiroshima

No, i believe force can be used when diplomacy fails.

I agree, war done just to loot a country is wrong.

 

The charade of "diplomacy" on Iraq was orchestrated to fail to pave the way for a fully intentioned conquest. Obviously another reality that slipped by your sanitised radar.

 

yeah

 

Wow Ina, you found another opportunity to use the term "Liberals" in a derogatory fashion. How insightful as ever!

Given the lack of anything but regurgitated soundbites from you and your wannabe ilk, seems the monopoly on "heading south" remains firmly in the hands of the right wing where it has been for some years now. None can deaden substantive discourse quite as effectively.

 

Perhaps when you show us some different content yourself. I wont hold my breath waiting for it though.

As for terms applied, if the shoe fits wear it.

 

I suppose. Never liked Kerry, personally.

 

Dropping the ball on the election.

 

I especially like it when the spambot is so determined to use every one of his catchphrases that it no longer makes sense. "Wannabe ilk" - WTF does that mean? Hilarious!

 

ermm... did you read the thread? we were discussing how american foreign policy affects future terrorism. and get me wrong, isn't the iraq war foregin policy? and i believe this will have lasting affects on the future security of the US. Gosh we crazy liberals, with our want for protecting states.

 

Al Qaeda hates Kofi Annan and the UN, and murders UN representatives. They have said that allowing East Timor to be free was a UN crime.

So I don't see why Al Qaeda should decide what foreign policy we are allowed to have.

 

They wrote you personally with verified identities to tell you all this did they?

Be verrrrry afraid of the unbiquitous unseen boogeymen, eeeeek!

You might be interested in some choice realestate I have to sell in the Everglades as well.

 

know they should not decide our foreign policy, but we should not be hypocrits, if we represent freedom and democracy then damn well do it, don't contradict your beliefs when you are abroad.

just because somebody thinks murder is okay, but i do not, does not mean i can go over and murder him/her and also his/her innocent family/friends. same idea on a larger scale, and then argue that murder is wrong
peacex

 

When Al Qaeda were plotting 9/11 they were also aiding the Taliban. The Taliban at the time were waging war against ethnic minorities, destroying ancient Buddhist statues, executing burkha clad women in football stadiums, and smashing musems, not to mention general widespread repression.


The US at the same time was the largest provider of humanitarian aid to Afghanistan. So Al Qaeda took refuge in a country which was surviving on emergency aid from the US, supported their odious government, and plotted terrorist attacks on civilian targets in the US.

And you conclude we are the hypocrites?

 

so the US were providing money to an oppressing regime?? forget the words humanitarian aid, they provided money to the taliban for whatever reasons, don't alwasy trust your govenment face up.

was that the same type of aid that the US gave saddam before the first gulf war, for again whatever reasons.
the taliban were a hugely repressive regime, and the US were funding them, and they had huge oils deals with the US. strange huh, oil deals again?

when did i say the terrorists are not hypocrite, they detest globalization yet use it to attack. i never said they were not, but so are the states. i am not defending terrorists, i am saying we need to be the bigger people and not be at the same level at they are.

 

and just so you know, i do not believe the US are evil or anything like that, i actually like what you used to stand for, apart from the free market. i am just commenting on what you have to do so the rest of the world does not hate you and so you can be admired again. i do not look at someone and say they are evil because i do not like some things about them. no human is pure evil. we are all different and we should accept that and encourage that

 

No, the aid was provided via non-governmental organaisations, charities, the UN, etc. And there was no oil deal.

You seem to have a hard time imagining that something could happen without the US being guilty.

 

Why the fuck would you watch Fox News in the first place? Everyone knows Fox News is a propaganda organ for Emperor Dubyah's regime. After Hurricane Katrina, just about every TV network in America EXCEPT Fox News has been jolted out of Bush's hypnotic trance.

Compared to many TV networks abroad (Especially the BBC and Canada's CBC), the American TV news networks SUCK when it comes to their international news coverage. But none broadcast more blatantly pro-Bush propaganda than Fox -- Not even Fox's British cousin, Sky News.

--Skeeter

 

nice to see you are actually reading my posts- you may want to read my last post and maybe edit this comment. is it hard for others to see that some liberals may actually want to help. i respect your viewpoint and take it to consideration. please do me the same curtosy
peacex

 

By the way, Aljazeera is preparing to launch an English-language TV news channel, Aljazeera International, to compete directly against BBC World and CNN International.


The new channel is tentatively scheduled to be launched in February. It's already been cleared to air in Canada by the Canadian Radio-Television and Telecommunications Commission. Wonder if the U.S. Federal Communications Commission will do likewise for this country -- espcially given Emperor Dubyah's open hostility toward the network.

-- Skeeter

 

Yes but you are also repeating myths - that the US supported the Taliban - which encourage blaming the US. Ask yourself where you heard that. You probably heard it a lot. Why do people get this wrong? Why does it get repeated so often when it isn't true?

I would think that providing emergency aid to starving countries would help get the US admired. But as I showed, it doesn't always work that way.