ok so i havnt done acid before but i am planning on havin a little get together with some mates and i was wondering what effects i can expect thankies ~peace~
Its hard to explain man...and its different for everybody... But basically you see comlicated fractals, and they have an effect on the sight of the physical world. Things in your vision will melt, yawn, slip and slide...The visuals seem to make the real world lose it's credibility, and senses mix together...The rest is almost all because of the individual, and his mood. But words are far too superficial to explain what you experience on lsd. If you have a playful mind your trip will probably be along those cords....If you are someone with interest in spirituality, well you mght just have an enlightening religious experience...Some people just get fucked up, and can't get anything intelligent out of their trip.. Id wait a few years if i were you though
Complete and utter ego loss, and a way to see things from a different perspective. Changed the way I look at lots of things. ...the visuals are fun too. just don't eat some bromo d-fly by accident =-o
LSD is like opening a doorway into another space-time dimension, or parallel universe, sort of like in ALICE IN WONDERLAND (By Lewis Carroll), where Alice goes down the rabbit hole (symbolizes a space-time "worm-hole"?) and everything is not as it seems! In: THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS AND WHAT ALICE FOUND THERE (By Lewis Carroll), Alice enters another dimension through a looking glass (or mirror). (Symbolizes a parallel universe?) Everything is different after dropping acid. What you see. What you feel. What you think. On acid, everything is ALIVE, "breathing" and full of energy. There is ego loss. Loss of inhibitions. It is a DEATH-REBIRTH experience! It is normal to feel different, after tripping on acid. You may feel like you re-entered a slightly different parallel space-time band, as I did. Relax. Don't panic! Go with the flow. The main effects will end in about 6-8 hrs., but don't expect to be feeling entirely normal. It's a slow and lengthy re-entry and not quick. If you've smoked pot and experienced some of it's psychedelic properties, then you might be somewhat prepared for the acid experience. But acid is still different and alot more powerful! A weak dose is more comfortable and pleasant, while a high dose is very intense, challenging and "really tripping". Your LSD experience will depend on your psychological make-up and especially on the dose that you take. I made up a dose/strength chart on my POST #7 (on the LSD-Acid Trips>Heavy Doses (Psychedelic94) THREAD (about 3 pages back) Look there! Also, 9 threads down: "mostyouvetaken" (modestsmoker) THREAD: POST #39 A Windowpane View Into Hyper-Space-Time, is a description of my first acid trip with 4-way amber windowpane (a 70's acid type), plus POST #45: LSD as a DEATH-REBIRTH experience. On first LSD trips, some trippers love it and said it was the best experience of their lives, while others said it scared the crap out of them and/or was TOO INTENSE, and they wished not to repeat the experience. Just be relaxed and have a positive outlook when entering into an LSD trip. LSD amplifies your emotions and thoughts, so make sure that they're good ones! You may experience things that you've never experienced before in your life! Things beyond words. You may see music and taste the colors! Don't fear these experiences, just except and enjoy them as new and wonderful! Grapefruity mentioned that you should maybe wait a few more years for your first LSD trip. I think that it's good advice. I was 19 years old when I took my first LSD trip. However, teenagers have a mind of their own and many teenagers have taken LSD trips at age 14, so you must at least have some useful information on the subject. It's your decision to make, not mine. If you do decide to trip, I hope that it's a good one! Happy trails to you! (This refers to the "trails" or "tracers" or "after-images" that you may see when people and objects move fast, when tripping on acid, sort of like strobe-light effects.) "Golly, Mr. Kesey. This Sure Is Some Swell Kool-Ade!" - www.key-z.com Peace out. Trip out. (\__/) BUNNY: What's ALICE doing in my rabbit hole? ( ) (> < )
yay thanks guys im not sure wether to get some asap or wait a while, i think i might wait until the summer holidays so i will have loads more freedom ~peace~
LoL i would have waited too after reading cosmicdust's post Though I don't think youll experience ego death and all with one hit or two Cosmicdust, you're special man. I love your posts. You seem so enthouastic about what you talk, with the words in caps and all
you never know the dosage your getting.. be prepared for everything, it will come as the universe gives it to you... dont rush the experience... lovin'light
~peace~, Grapefruity states that: "Though I don't think you'll experience ego death and all with one hit or two." True. The LSD in the late60's/early 70's was more powerful then, i.e. more LSD micrograms per hit. The old acid chemists just cared about the quality of the LSD, and not profits. It was a spiritual thing back then. Today acid chemists seem few and far between and care somewhat more for profits and/or a little less spiritual in their beliefs. Maybe there a few exceptions, though. As years have gone by, the acid doses have become weaker (i.e. less "mikes"/hit), so with only 1 or 2 hits, you'll probably won't experience "ego death" or the "BIRTH-REDEATH experience". Those things happen with higher doses. You'd have to eat many hits of weak acid to experience that, but it's not usually good to do that on a first trip. I experienced a weak dose of acid (really half a tab of BLUE MESCALINE, from a girlfriend, but it was really LSD). Some drugs were just mis-represented in the 70's, but I knew the true score then, although other teens were just too "wasted" to know any better. It was just euphoric, with extremely mild visual distortions and a "psychoanalytic" type of mode. No real "ego loss", or DEATH-REBIRTH experience. I recovered quite quickly, with no real bad after effects. It wasn't INTENSE, or challenging, or "REALLY TRIPPING". It was basically pleasant and euphoric. It would've been a nice "first trip", but with 70's acid my first trip was a bit TOO INTENSE. Not likely in today's acid scene. yonosoymedico states that: "you never know the dosage your getting..be prepared for everything, it will come as the universe gives it to you . . . don't rush the experience." Sounds like good advice to me! In today's acid scene it's possible, but not just highly probable to get a single powerful hit of LSD. In the late 60's/early70's, it would've been alot more probable. My first LSD trip was probably a bit TOO INTENSE for a first time, but that's what I got! I took one hit (3/32"X3/32" amber-colored square of plastic, or hard gelatin) of 4-way amber WINDOWPANE acid. "4-way" means that the single hit contains 4 doses (maybe?). "Liquid" acid (maybe violet) and WHITE LIGHTNING acid was floating around also, but WINDOWPANE pretty much did it for me. These are "powerful" early 70's types of acid, that are simply not available in today's acid scene. You'll most likely get weaker acid doses, which is in a way good. You can control the type of trip you get, by the number of hits you eat all at once. You won't be forced into a "mind-blowing" heavy dose, like I was! I don't know how I survived my fist INTENSE LSD trip, but I did. It may have taken a few months to fully recover, but it may have expanded my mind in some ways! I'm glad I had the experience, as it was "enlightening", but a little TOO INTENSE at times. As with aircraft, any landing you survive is a good one! Of all the trippers of acid that I knew (and some ate huge doses of strong acid) none never had any permanent psychotic effects! It's possible, I guess, but the media blows things way out of proportion! To suit their own political agendas. It's doubtful that you'll have such an intense trip from 1-2 hits of today's acid scene, but there is a rare chance. I've had many intense pot trips before I tripped on acid, and it did help me prepare for an acid trip. When I was 19, a girlfriend I knew (two houses over) was 14 and took many acid and "angel dust" trips, plus who knows what else. It didn't seem to bother her, though. People react differently to acid, obviously. So trip when you feel ready. Summertime, with some extra time, sounds good. I'm more familar with the old acid scene. Grapefruity, PurpleGel, Krin and 2cesarewild are more familar with today's acid scene. Read those posts! We're all here, on these posts, to learn new things and sometimes just rap. Learn something new everyday! Keep on Trippin'! Or is it truckin'? Ask Mr. Natural! Peace out. Trip out. (\__/)))))) BUNNY: Cool I see tracers! Groovy trip, man! ( )))))) (> < ))))))
I wish I could get my hands on windowpane, I have come across gell tabs that were the strongest doses I have had, I would guess toward 150 ugs(Rough estimate though). A good thing to remember in todays acid scene is "If its bitter, its a spitter". Acid shouldn't have a taste if anything it will have a VERY VERY small taste, If it is bitter it is most likely an RC(research chemical). ". . .they all do sort of the same thing. They rearrange what you thought was real. They remind you of the beauty of very simple things. You forget, as you're so busy going from A to Z, that there's 24 letters in between."- Grace Slick
Trips are very different from low dose to high. You won't see any "complicated fractals" unless you take about 4 hits. On a low dose you will see some colors, some breathing, music will sound especially fantastic, and at times you will feel like you have found order in complete chaos. You will feel a strange feeling in your solar plexus, sort of like rushes of energy that send a message to your brain that can only be interpreted as "it is great to be alive." On higher doses the feeling is more like "this is what heaven feels like." Stupid things may scare you or "freak you out," but there's nothing really to worry about. As a sidenote, I am completely against people your age taking LSD.
I guess the lower the dose is , the easier it is to control...For me there is a certain level reached, where if I don't lay down and leave, things get hellish. I lose control. I have to choose heaven or hell. And hell seems like bein sucked in heaven for a sec, then returning to life, endlessly. Others should have felt those 'waves'....But some enjoy it. Id rather surrender control. Make my body vanish...plz...I ask them.
Just remember you paid for it so enjoy it. It will be over in about 8 hours anyway and life will still go on afterward. Your not the first and certainly wont be the last!
When Dr. Albert Hoffman discovered LSD for Sandoz Pharmecuticles. he was searching for an antidote to the common cold. This was around 1950. LSD does mimic is a small way, the flu, What happens is that the tempature of the cranium increases 1/2 a degre. This mimics the fever of a flu. What happens is that the thought process is quickened. Its real easy to overconsume beer or alcholic beverages while tripping because you will be energetic and dehydrated so please drink lots of water. This has the added benefit of flushing the trip into your bloodstream.
DXMsucks, WINDOWPANE is a form of LSD delivery using a hard, flat gelatin sheet, or sometimes a small piece of flat plastic, but mostly gelatin. It was invented in 1971. It is not a type of LSD, although a supposedly pure and powerful dose of LSD was added to the gelatin sheet (or plastic). I can attest to its power, but I cannot verify it's purity. Trippers who dropped it, commented: "Tiny, but powerful enough to blow the eyes out of your head!" As far as I know, it's not available today. Instead, it has "morphed" into GEL TABS (or "GELATIN TABS"), which are not totally flat, but "bubbly"-looking. GEL TABS are the new form of WINDOWPANE, but maybe less powerful. They are supposedly today's strongest acid hits. There are always some exceptions, but generally true. Those "breath mints strips" they sell at drug stores, that dissolve in your mouth, are very similar to windowpane gelatin sheets. On Ebay, you can bid on examples of ACID ART. Paper blotter sheets (printed with Acid Art) are sold as an art form, but contain 0% LSD, just paper and ink! Many websites (like: www.key-z.com) sell paper blotter "acid art", and are sometimes autographed. Timothy Leary autographed ones can go for several hiundred dollars! There were some Ken Kesey signed ones too! Also, you can bid on INERT (0% LSD) samples of real WINDOWPANE and GEL TAB samples, mostly enclosed in a picture frame, and sometimes placed on top of paper blotter sheets, or next to them. Just pure gelatin! "If it's bitter, it's a spitter." That's funny! LOL, but probably very true! Where does those RC (Research Chemicals) or (chemical congeners, derivatives an/or analogues), like D-bromo-FLY, come from, anyway? Crime labs out to make a quick buck on unsuspecting customers, or is it a product of the CIA for experimentation in mind control and chemical warfare? CRACK cocaine was supposedly created by the CIA! Dr. Albert Hoffman (in Basel, Switzerland, at SANDOZ LABS.) discovered/synthesized LSD, but was supposedly commissioned by the CIA to synthesize PSILOCYBIN, which he did! Dr. Albert Hoffman was (and still is, but retired) regarded as: "The world's best organic chemist." In the late 60's, DOM (2, 5-dimethoxy-4-methylamphetamine), called a "psychedelic-amphetamine" (probably an analogue of methamphetamine) made its debut. It had the street name of STP, or "super acid" or "organic mescaline"! 2 mgs. was a MINIMAL DOSE. At 3.2 mgs., things started to happen and was similar to an 8-hour LSD trip. At 10 mgs., and above, you were "really tripping", vividly hallucinating and "amped up" for three days! Owsley decided to create and sell some. Most of his pills were in the 15 mgs. range, but the last 100 pill batch ranged from totally inert to over 250 mgs. per pill, of pure STP! There was an error in Owsley's quality controls! 250 mgs. is a major overdose and caused many bad trips, because of this! On November 11, 1967, STP reappeared as a "pink wedge", which was supposed to contain 1,500 micrograms of pure LSD, but was really 250 micrograms of bad LSD, with an incredible 900 mgs. of STP (over 300X the minimal dose)! Even more real nasty bad trips! Good thing I never had any of that stuff! Even though a low dose may be tolerable and agreeable. A 3.2 mgs. dose produced the following trip (lasting 10 hrs.): "I started staring at the orange sherbet which was beautiful, brilliant orange, falling disorganizedly like a whirlpool . . . Later, I began shrinking, and water in the glass on the table was getting bigger and moving toward me, coming to envelope me . .. I was really scared . . . I saw a witch doctor, then a horse on the wall . . . Then the ceiling started moving up and down and was purple and yellow . . . I felt I was losing control." (THE SPEED CULTURE, By Lester Grinspoon, M.D., Harvard University Press, Cambridge, Mass., 1975, 1976, Pgs. 55-56.) Thorazine (chlorpromazine), or other phenothiazines, just souped it up (or "potentiated" it) even more! People tripping on STP physically tremble from the powerful energy sensations, extremely electric! It's a stretching, quivering, shaking experience. You feel like your brakes have given out! Vivid hallucinations are also common. It's different and more scary than LSD! DXM (dextromethorphan hydrobromide) is classified as an "anesthetic-hallucinogen", or "dissociative-psychedelic", like PCP (phencyclidine) "angel dust" or "rocket fuel" and KETAMINE (2-(2-chlorophenyl)-2(methylamino)-cyclohexanone), "Vitamin K". DXM has had bad side effects. PCP is TOXIC, said to cause cracks in the brain and "freak-outs" and overdoses are common. KETAMINE is used as a "cat tranquilizer" at vets and it is used, in higher doses, in hospitals for anesthesia (during surgery). In lower doses you can "trip" off of it. This is probably the best choice in this group. John C. Lilly, M.D. (another Timothy Leary), Author of: THE CENTER OF THE CYCLONE-An Autobiograhy of Inner Space, and other inner space exploration books), who also worked with human-dolphin communication, took over 100 KETAMINE trips! I never tried DXM (except in a small cough syrup dose), or KETAMINE, but I did try PCP, only a few times, though. It's an extremely good pain reliever, has a weird "dissociative" and "in another dimension" feeling, like you're on the other side of reality! 3D hallucinations seemed to flow through my entire room, mind and body, but only with my eyes closed, otherwise, you just "feel" them! It was TOO TOXIC and DANGEROUS for my tastes, even though I had good trips! There were many non-fatal overdoses and some freak-outs, in my small hometown (in the 70's). It made good stories for the local paper! Not good! But to each his or her own. Mordiana, Trippers, in the LSD state, are highly suggestible, i.e. an "auto-suggestion" in psychology. You can "steer" your trip, like you can with pot trips, or even with dreams (called LUCID DREAMING), but it may take some training and experience. YOGIs, and TIBETIAN MONKS, who practice years of INTENSE meditation, can TOTALLY control, or even cancel out, an LSD trip! 2cesarewild describes it as mental control. How's JOHN SINCLAIR (originally from Flint, Michigan (USA)) doing in Amsterdam? I have relatives in Luxemburg, Belgium and Denmark! ~peace~, 2cesarewild provides another opinion that it's best to wait. Your body and mind is still developing and growing, physically and emotionally, until about 20 years old. After that, your body just goes downhill after that. Not quickly, though, but very slowly, until it's time to take a dirt nap. Sad, but true! Biologically you're in your "prime" years. Make the best of them! But I was a teenager once, and they follow the NIKE motto: "Just do it!" "Beyond "A seperate reality" lies an inner reality!" - JOHN C. LILLY, M.D. Peace out. Trip out.
