I killed innocent people for our government by paul rockwell

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by hippiewise, Dec 7, 2005.

  1. skip

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    I've heard the number of deaths due to the Vietnam War (which probably includes deaths in Cambodia & Laos too), comes to 4 million. It wasn't just the US fighting the Vietcong, the South Vietnamese were fighting too and the majority killed were Vietnamese, regardless of which side they were on.

    Women and children who died are not counted separately in any figures that I know. When you massacre a whole village and dump the bodies into a pit, you don't go and distinguish between the bodies (unless you're into necrophilia).

    We will probably NEVER get a tally on Iraqi deaths, esp. women and children because to do so would indict the US for crimes against humanity. The neocons and religiouscons hate it when you abort fetuses, but have no problem with killing children by the hundreds.

    One thing the media seems to rarely report is the fact that for every group of Iraqi freedom fighters there's a whole support group of women and children feeding them, running errands, etc. Whole families get decimated everytime a bomb is dropped on a house. But does this get reported. NO NO NO!

    This is the press censorship I am talking about in other threads.

    You cannot report about nor show images of the women and children killed by American actions in Iraq.

    You can blame the insurgents for a lot of innocent deaths, but of course if WE HADN'T INVADED THEIR COUNTRY, there would be no insurgents and we'd have no need to discuss these unnecessary deaths.

    Our continued presence in Iraq keeps the insurgency alive and killing, while our attempts to remove them just kills more women and children, not just insurgents.

    BTW when they DO say "we killed a dozen insurgents" in a raid, that usually means about 3 or 4 adult males and 8-9 women and children. In fact I'm pretty sure there are probably twice as many non-combatants killed in every US action.

    For example just count those killed in road blocks when the trigger happy Americans shoot first. Many, many of those dead are children and their mothers and fathers, who are completely innocent. In a matter of two or three seconds they are tried, convicted and executed by a US firing squad.

    And this happens over and over again. And the US could easily count the dead in these circumstances.

    Again it is our presence there that perpetuates the violence. The longer we stay, the more Iraqis and Americans die.
     
  2. Megara

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    Sure we would. We'd be blaming the US for the deaths due to the sanctions.


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    Are you saying everything will be peaceful if we leave?
     
  3. Duck

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    how the fuck is your foot gonna get blown off stepping on a missile?
     
  4. airforcedrew

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    Thats what I like to see, no cold hard facts, but ASSumptions. I worked with the 1st and 3rd Infantry division in afghanistan, and the 82nd ABD from Ballad. They do alot of raids, and the funny part was, 80% of afghan raids were ended peacefully. (the people had already fled, or we struck a deal with the local warlords, and they settled things their way.) And the ones that did not end peacefully civilian bystanders would either be held hostage by the insurgency, or shot by the insurgency. Yes their deaths may have been prevented by no one coming to clear out the weapons/bomb cashes, but then they may have been car/suicide bombed bombed later. (less ended peacefully in iraq)

    If you don't believe I was there heres some pictures
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  5. Duck

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    you have me misunderstood... why would he call them cluster bombs if they are missiles?
     
  6. guy

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    matthew i said why not eat some depleted uranium, i didn't want you to tell me how safe it was by waving some documents infront of me or tell me about coal mines. so come on, how about it, if its so safe - eat some. why not contact the government and ask them if its ok if they could afford you some of the stuff to eat to prove a point?

    airforce drew - some interesting pictures. i suppose if i were involved in afghanistan/ iraq etc i would do a tour of the local ancient historical sites, chances are there wouldn't be any problems (ie people trying to shoot at you). did you get to check out any of the history whilst over there?
     
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    Where I was, was too dangerous for tourism. It was the Kandahar region near Pakistan. I had some friends at Kabul that saw some sites though, it was much safer there though. They said though everything was free which always is a plus.
     
  8. skip

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    Yes, for the same reason some guy freaking out on an airplane without his meds is shot dead.

    FEAR.

    Fear everyone. That makes for a nice peaceful world, don't it?

    Had your dose of FEAR today? No? Turn on FOX NEWS. I'm sure they'll fill you right up.

    Fear Terrorists, Fear Democrats, Fear Michael Moore, Fear Liberals, Fear Muslims, Fear Osama, Fear your own people.

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  9. skip

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    You see that's the BIG difference between most Xtians and Muslims.

    Xtians usually fear death, Muslims don't usually.

    Learn to live without fear, and maybe, just maybe, war won't be necessary anymore.

    You fear Nukes
    You fear Chemical Warfare
    You fear Biological Warfare

    Yet the US has the largest stockpiles in the world of these items, some of which have ALREADY BEEN USED ON OUR OWN PEOPLE! (sound familiar?). Like any weapon they can be used against those who possess them.

    Why don't you try ridding your own country of that which you fear, before telling the rest of the world what to do...

    And meanwhile the arms merchants (most of them American & British) make record profits.
     
  10. Wicked Penetration

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    You're right... people like you really do scare me, because this world would be a seriously f'd up place if guys like you ran it. I'd like to see how you would handle the pressure and the situations we are always being faced with - and I can bet you 100% that your liberal attitude would lead us from a 1st world power to a 3rd world power and the naive views of how evil the United States are would be thouroughly abused by other countries.

    Thank God we don't have to live with that option.
     
  11. Duck

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    so when everyone is nice and ignorant to all the dangers someone can take full advantage?
     
  12. Pointbreak

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    Bad news guy, you already ate some uranium. What's worse it that it wasn't depleted uranium, it was natural uranium, which is more toxic. In fact your parents and grandparents lived their whole lived with uranium in their bodies, and so will you. Uranium is a naturally occuring part of the soil, and we all ingest some daily in our food and drink.

    So why aren't you dead?
     
  13. guy

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    matthew just eat the depleted uranium will you? i'm aware of the uranium thing. the difference is the concentration. the dose alone does the poison make. dirty weapons have never been popular.
     
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    The subject of this this thread is NOT depleted uranium. Want to talk about that, start a new thread.

    This thread is about the US military killing and maiming innocent Iraqis.

    Like these...

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  16. skip

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    It's pretty obvious the interviewee is not an expert on DU, and it was the reporter who brought up the subject, not the interviewee.

    To denigrate the rest of his report due to his lack of knowledge on this one subject, is completely unfair & biased, whereas the rest of his report based on his own experiences is the main point of this thread.
     
  17. airforcedrew

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    more than likely those pictures stem from car bombing/suicide bombing wounds, and insurgency hostage situations. Or someone just typed in google. maimed iraqi children and women, and cut and pasted the link.
     
  18. skip

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    Keep on deluding yourselves.

    Yes, the US hasn't hurt anyone in Iraq, ever.

    And Bush is our savior, returned to conquer the evil muslims, women and children included.
     
  19. look closely at that first picture, can we say photoshopped?

    no idea what's going in the second one, but it really could mean any sorts of things, the problem is you don't have context for it....
     
  20. Duck

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    AHAHAHAHHA how did noone notice that?
     

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