Ashes of joints?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by restin256, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. restin256

    restin256 Member

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    Hypothetically: If I were to burn some salvia enough to make it ash, but not enough for the salvinorin to evaporate, could I collect these ashes and try to smoke or eat them? Does it seem like a good idea?
     
  2. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    the idea that you need to burn salvia at very high temps of the salvinorin-a will not vaporize are, in my opinion, largely myth or exaggeration (i'm not sure which)

    it may well be that you can get STRONGER effects from a torch lighter, but i've almost NEVER used one, and i've had some fucking INTENSE trips.

    people used to say you HAD to use a torch lighter and you HAD to use a bong or something similar. well fuck, i've gotten my best results in a spoon with wooden matches or a bic.

    basically the point is even if there are SOME left over in the ashes, it wont be all, or even anywhere close to half. and then you'd have the problem of not getting all of what IS there vaporized. you'd need to "smoke" a lot of ash to get it, and what IS true about salvia is you need to ingest all your salvinorin-a within about 30 seconds to a minute for best effects. if you space it out, take too long, or dont hold it long enough, you're not half as likely to break through.
     
  3. moka9x9

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    Salvia is an odd drug, for best results use a water bong or a bubbler, not because you have too, but because it cools the smoke down, so you can hold more of the salvia smoke in your lungs, geting more of the active chemical and therefore throwing you into a more intense trip, useing a jet light burns it quickly, at a high tempature, this way you do not waste any of the active chemical and waste your money, even try hot kniving, or forking (with a jet lighter). Just becarful not to pass out onto the hot element or/and knives.
     
  4. redgreenvines

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    the torch is only of value to burn more faster

    threashold is based on 4-10 micrograms of salvinorin getting into the blood per second averaged over ~30 seconds or more.

    the ash from joints will be empty of salvinorin - fuggedaboudit.

    a narrow joint will not deliver the rate (of salvinorin absorption) required to threashold but sadly it will deliver the total quantity, a fat joint will work, but only the first 3 or 4 fat tokes will be of use wasting more than half unless someone puts it out for you. the narrow joint with adequate content of 8 or 9 tokes length will be drawn out over 4-5 minutes which is too slow to hit threashold.

    combustion temperature remains irrelavent when smoking: if it burns the salvinorin is definitely hurled into the airstream.
     
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