The dirty market

Yes, clearly marijuana should be legal. Whether you think that or not, thats probably the overwhelming viewpoint here and there are enough threads discussing that - but listen. Even though it should be legal, its not. And because of this there is a dirty dirty black market in which we all participate to get marijuana. Sure, the dealer across the street that buys ounces and qps is a nice guy. And yeah, he's not really friends with the guy he gets his from. But its all a haze after that. Up at the top are obviously gangs and corrupt grow-ops that take advantage of social problems like poverty and illegal immigrants and all that kind of thing. So while it should be legal and the market doesn't have to exist it does. So is it immoral for us to smoke pot simply because we are supporting those figures? I'm just curious of everyone's take on this because no notion has ever made me consider giving up pot altogether so much as this one.

 

ive never really thought about it that way...i guess i should!

 

Buddy. I'm pretty sure even if I wasn't super ultra blitzed out of my mind it still wouldn't make sense.

 

It's not immoral because it's not our fault it's supporting "those figures", because it's not our fault that it's illegal. The goverment is who supports "those fugures" by making weed illegal. We're gonna smoke anyway, so they might as well legalize it. If it was legal the goverment could grow it or we could grow it and completely cut out the black market.

P.S. Ifany of that sounded retarded, disregard, because I am completely fucked on pills and numerous blunts.

 

Is buying clothing immoral because a company uses child labor in another country?


I don't think so. I support shady people by buying pot, but I also support plenty of other kinds of evil through legitimate business.

 

But clothing is a necessity (which can be bought without contribution to child labor by buying clothes made in north america and europe) whereas pot is a recreation.

See now I agree that the government could prevent this market by promoting legalization, but the government isn't a single composed entity and this just hasn't happened yet - one day it probably will but for now there is a lot to deal with. I think my own country Canada is certainly on the road to legalization considering most citizens support it, one major party supports it, and another major party is ambivalent towards it, but it is currently illegal. And to buy from this market is on the surface innocent civil disobedience, but there are subtle victims that have nothing to do with the government, and certainly a perpetuation of malicious crime on our behalf benefitting prosperous and evil higher-ups.

 

I don't think that necessity has anything to do with it. Also, you do have a choice with weed too. You can grow it yourself, or get it from someone you know isn't a "bad" man or associates with "bad" criminals.

Though, I do agree that pot being illegal create's the current black market and adds to social problems. (Just look at prohibition of alcohol in America. All that did was help the mob gain a stronger foothold.) However, I think that legalizing pot wouldn't solve these problems either. The illegal drug market would be just as powerful as it is now, and pot would be more widespread, and abused by even more people (which COULD be a bad thing).

 

BUYIGN WEED SUPPORTS TERRORISM!!!


anyways, i'm not part of this "black market" [not that i consider weed sales a black market in the first place]

because i know who i get my weed off, and he's at the top of that food chain.

 

You been watching too much t.v.
I grow pot in my backyard and garage. I sell the excess to people I know. How does that figure into the dirty dirty black market you spoke of?

 

yea man there are plenty of people like ranger danger who puts his ass on the front line to supply the people of his area with weed. i dont think that sounds like a dirty market i think that sounds like the american way.


HAHAHAHAHAHAH im baked and i just read that and realized that it sounded like i was kissing this guys ass, oh well

 

so i could buy pot that was grown by my best friend in his back yard, which that money that he gained from me to buy a new X-Box 360, would that make it bad?....if that made sence, i forgot what my argument was half way through writting this...

 

Tobacco is smuggled by the mafia across state lines. Legalizing does not mean organized crime loses any portion of business.

 

It would still reduce it a little bit.

 

not me, i know where my stuff comes from or i know that it's "homegrown". here and in california are the two places i ever get it and yea, it's deffenatly not like you described - for me, anyway.

 

who really gives a shit? i mean...i'm going to smoke pot, buying it from a killer doesnt make me a killer so its all good.

 

lol "mafia"

ok there bud....

 

err yeah?

 

Woah not even one person contemplating it openly : /


I dunno I'm not trying to convince anybody of anything, I participate in it too, but its still worth thinking about. I mean I'm a vegetarian cause I don't like the process so am I any better supporting this process? I'd say the difference is that an immoral process to produce marijuana isn't necessary for mass production - but even still.

Also, I think its weird that everyone here knows someone that grows it themself; I don't know anyone that grows it themself and I know a ton of users and dealers. And I like the guys I buy it from a lot but there is a subtle and wide-reaching process behind it all, even if the guys I buy from aren't completely aware of it.

And finally, it would -definately- -greatly- reduce drug crime and black market drug deals to legalize marijuana. With a free and legal market for it there is just no economic demand for illegal marijuana activity.

So yeah, worth thinking about is all I'm saying. Is there anyone out there that is also sort of concerned thinking about the whole thing?

 

thats like the if you buy drugs you supposrt terrorism, what it an anit-drug or terrorism ad and if the US legalizes the terrorist dont matter anymore(this also shows how the US ueses terrorism to keep people down)

 

the thing with pot is...U CAN GROW IT IN THE UNITED STATES!

it's not like u have huge cocaine fields off in columbia and are importing it in, it's an internal problem

internal = no black market, there is no demand for the product outside of it's manufacturer