I think that tapering off would be a better idea, then quit cold turkey from there. Like, take a half a hit every time you would take a full hit, and do it just as often as you used to. Then, you will have half as hard of a time coming off.(At least thats what I'm guessing)
A better thing to do would be to take a shot every so often just to cover the withdraws, not to get high at all, just so you dont go fucking nuts, do less and less each time.
I would get as much support as possible - its all fine saying you want to stop and things but not going back will be harder - if you have carried on with this try and get someone to check on you or be with you - your body can do wierd things while going 'cold turkey' - without the right legal drugs alot can happen. If you are doing it now - good luck. I hope things will look clearer in a few days xxx
Little late to reply, but hey better late than never eh? No doubt about it man, you got a good head on you shoulders, may have just taken awhile to get things through. That's fucking great that your stopping cold turkey. There is no better christmas present you could give yourself. No lie though, as you already know, your going to be sick off your ass for quite some time bro. But man, doing whats best for your family comes first right? Keep us posted, and don't give in.
if your getting pains then maybe a little MJ will help ease that? Also im not sure if this is a myth but i heard that a psychedelic tryptamine called ibogaine somehow resets your receptors in your brain to their natural state removing any chemical dependency(but not psychological). I know its not cheap-youll probably have to take a plane to some equatorial country(i cant remember exactly which one) and stay with the local shamans to get some but you seem wealthy enough to afford it. And it's also not something to be taken lightly, Imagine a more powerful ayahuasca trip that lasts for 72 hours (6x as long).
ibogaine is actually quite dangerous and people have actually died from it. but suposely it can be extremly helpful with quitting your addictions.
I think that considering the dangers, he'd be better off to wait it off unless the cold turkey method doesn't work. I'd try ibogaine as a plan b, or a last resort.
I'd suggest you to have a big bag of weed... Eventually eat 10 grams of hash(or a little more of pot)... You wont be ABLE to do heroin
Errr... You, talking about pricks?! I don't know about this guy, but you seriously need to shut up. From http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137034&page=2&pp=10 I think the "smooth_e" you do have lowered your amount of serotonin and made you less empathic when you're sober... So, stop taking e's and don't be an ass. Then we agree
So, i didnt give in, well maybe i did a bit , i took some percocet llike 70mgs, and all it did was make it so could eat...man this sucks so much. I have never felt like this ever...I was doing 6-15 bags a day, and maybe cold turkey was the worst way to go...so the percocet helped. The biggest problem is that NOBODY knows I do this shit, the only person that does is my dealer and some of my old friends, but there is no support there. so my girl just thinks I have the flu...she is being so sweet and i feel so guilty....I hope this is over soon, i want to die
Yeah telling her would be a big help. Getting that shit off your shoulders so she can help you. Whoever said go to a doctor gave good advice. They can either get you methadone or some thing else to help. Much love from this way man, good luck.
You should tell your girlfriend that you are trying to kick it, so she can help you. I think that telling her you are trying to get off it for your family and future will earn you a lot more kudos than when she finds out for herself someday, and accuses you of lying to her (even though you might not have, people tend to assume if they aren't told something, then they are being lied to.)
I'll be praying for ya tonight Psylence. Here's a few quotes from the Good Book. "A prayer of faith shall save the sick and the Lord shall raise them up." They that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength. They will rise up like an eagle. They shall run and not be tired. They will walk and not be faint" "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me". I'm not trying to preach but remember this. The Lord hasn't turned His back on you. He's waiting there with His hand stretched out to you,waiting for you to grab ahold so he can help you stand up.
Trying not to preach? That's your whole post. I know you are trying to help, but this man needs help in the physical world right now. He is going through what in the next week or so will be a possibly life-threatening situation. You don't know what religion or if he is religious at all. I know you are helping in your own way, and obviuosly it's something you know a great deal about. As a therapist, I know withdrawal, and he is in the physical world right now, and the only way he wants to be in the spiritual world now is by dying, because he feels he is. I'm glad that at least you aren't putting him down for ever picking up the H.
Psylence, did you read my post, it has alot of information to help you. I think its a must in your situation.