Why do peeps use tryptamines?

They seem a little dangerous. I read about them on erowid, cause I was curious, and there were death reports where kids had heart attacks and shit from taking them. Not dogging anyone's fun, just a question.

 

dangrous like how? DMT is a tryptamine and is made by your brain,and other organs also lives in many plants and other animals no one has died from a DMT over dose. most tryptamines arnt that dangrous, some tryptamines are given to people as acid and other drugs, but it you know the drug and dose they are probably one of the lest dangrous drugs, everyone who has ever lived on earth has done and will do trytamines

 

not dangerous as long as you know what your doin....
just read about right doesages......ppl that OD ed from rcs/tryptamines.. took stupid amounts..ignorant ...

 

youve not read enough shit if you generalise 'tryptamines' like that. there are heaps of tryptamines, and most of them youll never hear about unless you look. many of them are made in labs, experimenting with new structures around the tryptamine backbone, and obviously then there are gonna bea few whos effects are not well documented, thus overdose can occur

 

not to mention that many are nonpsychoactive and completely harmless (5-HTP, melatonin, etc.)

most of the classic psychedelics are virtually harmless from a physical standpoint, have never been shown to cause brain damage, and are also tryptamines. this would include things like psilocin, psilocybin, and baeocystin (the three main active alkaloids in psilocybian mushrooms), LSD, LSA, DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, and DPT.

some can be slightly dangerous, especially in rediculous or improperly measured doses, such as is the case with some much less common drugs such as tryptamine MAO inhibitors such as harmine and harmaline, and some psychedelics like AMT (a classic, has been around since the 60s...called IT-290 in tom wolfe's novel "the electric kool-aid acid test") and 5-MeO-AMT.

while most psychoactive tryptamines have some effects in common, a "tryptamine" feeling, they have very little consistantly in common with each other except the tryptamine chemical structure. they really can't be grouped together as a class of drugs unless comparing them (in a very very general way) to phenelthylamines or you're doing some more advanced research in which such distinctions may be of importance. at any rate, there is no way to claim that tryptamines are "safe" or "dangerous" outside of specific substances, and even then the distinction may be shaky at best.

one may as well ask "why do people use alkaloids?"
there are a wide range of alkaloids (in order to be an alkaloid, a chemical must contain both nitrogen and carbon atoms) that vary from medicinal, to "recreational," to poisonous. almost every drug is an alkaloid, ranging from LSD to nicotine to caffeine to viagra (sildenafil) to benedryl (diphenhydramine). these drugs have such a wide variety of effects on the body that they cannot be classified as a group of similar drugs in just any context. all are chemically similar to some extent, but some are "safe" some are "addictive" some are lethally poisonous alone or in combination with certain others, some are used for fun, some for therapeutic reasons, and so on.

similarly, in certain contexts it is justifiable to lump tryptamines all into one big group, but the questions "why do people use tryptamines?" or "are tryptamines safe?" are simply too vague and too generalized to provide an adequate and satisfying answer.

why do people use tryptamines? well it depends on the substance in question. people use melatonin because they believe it will help them sleep better, even though no lab studies have shown evidence of psychoactivity, melatonin has to build up in your brain, its not been demonstrated to be a better sleeping aid than a placebo, and your body's sleep cycle is based around your natural rhythm of endogenous melatonin production and not necessarily CAUSED by it...whereas people use things like LSD, DMT, and psilocybin to induce psychedelic or sometimes trance-like states. the reasoning behind this is varied. some people trip for spiritual or religious reasons, some people do it for fun, some people simply like to push themselves to the limit and take drugs for the same reasons others climb mountains or sheer cliffs. other people take them literally as medicine with therapists to help cause MANY mental changes conducive to productive therapy sessions. tryptamine MAO inhibitors are often taken to intensify the effects of other psychedelic tryptamines such as mushrooms or acid, or to make certain others orally active, such as DMT. however they will simultaneously make it very dangerous, even deadly, to consume certain other substances such as alcohol, almost any OTC medication, and things like aged cheeses and meats, and certain fruits or vegetables.

are tryptamines safe? like i said, some are, some aren't, but with most it simply depends on the context in which it's taken....dosage, mindset, location, and what else is being put into your body all need to be taken into consideration. an MAOI can be deadly if combined with certain other substances. on the other hand, people have taken LITERALLY hundreds of doses of LSD all at once and lived to tell about it. some seem to have no physical danger at all.

 

dude, the first time I smoked dosha I smoked 5 joints with 1 person that I was freinds with at the time. And i have never done coke. Nesta, you are very entilligent thanks for enlightenening me. Seriosly. I've never met anyone who knew so much about drugs. Thanx. I never thought acid was a tryptamine, but I see that I'm wrong. What I meant by tryptamines in my post were like 2-CB or whatever TF it is and shit like that, more esoteric drugs that some people have never heard of. And mabye to a lesser extent AMT. I know how safe mushrooms and LSD are. Acid isn't bad at all. My freinds used to call me "captain BadTrips" lol. Thanks to all for clarifying that. Not to be redundant, but I must ask, is 2-CB safe? (I'm not considering using it, just wanted to know.).

Peace

 

2c-b is a phenethylamine, not a tryptamine, just so you know.

 

Misty, don't pay attention to sunsets' bitch-ass insults. Just read up on the shit on erowid and get educated before proceeding with ANYTHING.

 

Both of those are
5-HTP increases serotonin, melatonin makes you sleepy and mellow.. Hence the name, maybe.

 

Sorry man. I'm really not mentally retarted, but you think what you will. There are some people though, who haven't heard of 2-CB. I'm not making that up. SOrry I used the term esoteric. All I meant was that I read on Erowid some dude in Kansas or something took 2-CB at a party and had a heart attack. The kid was like 19 years old or something. 19 year olds just don't have heart attacks out of the blue. i wasn't attacking 2-CB as a drug. I just wanted to know more about it. And the only reason prolly more people do 2-CB than cid is cause 2-CB is still legal. But i'm sorry for being ignorant. No hard feeings.

 

5-HTP has not been proven to increase seratonin production, it's just a precursor to seratonin, and when ingested orally may -or may not- HELP your body more EASILY produce seratonin. even if it is true, it would take several days (at least) of continual use to notice any effects. on top of that, your brain naturally regulates how your existing seratonin is used, and 5-HTP is definitely not going to dramatically effect this, especially not in any way to produce psychoactive effects. it is not a "happy pill" and will not affect your seratonin levels in the way of LSD or MDMA or anything else of this nature. it produces no psychoactive effects, but some people believe it may help with depression and other seratonin-related problems. its not too likely though.

melatonin is one of the best examples of hyped up marketing winning over science. studies have proven taking melatonin to be NO MORE effective than taking a placebo (sugar pill passed off as melatonin) in clinical studies. it is an endogenous substance (meaning it is produced in the body naturally) that is created by the pineal gland, which is located in the middle of the brain. melatonin production is at it's highest during certain parts of the sleep cycle that have made it associated with sleeping. however, it has not been shown to be a neurotransmitter which INDUCES sleep, even if it's production correlates with the sleep cycle. melatonin regulation takes place over days, so any effect you could achieve from melatonin would have to result from taking melatonin regularly over an extended period of time. and you wouldn't feel it just when you took it; it would be somewhat persistant. basically i believe people usually just experience the placebo effect. if you are given an inactive pill and told it's a sedative of some sort, you're likely to find you fall asleep more easily after taking it even if there's really no drugs at all in it. well, melatonin certainly is an important neurotransmitter and it IS said to be assosciated with our sleep patterns, but that doesnt mean that taking melatonin pills will put you to sleep. perhaps some individuals simply react this way to it while most do not, but that doesnt make as much sense as the placebo effect. the lack of scientific support for melatonin's effects is what keeps it in the realm of "supplements" instead of "sleeping aids" or even prescription drugs. but since the companies that manufacture vitamins and supplements and such marketed it so well, melatonin has been paraded as a miracle drug for insomniacs. it simply isn't. you'd be far better off taking diphendhydramine or valerian root or even simply drinking a glass of red wine before bed...

 

So far I haven't heard of any fatality caused by 2c-b. Since ppl can go up higly above 100mg withouth any severe problems, my guess is you'd have to take really nasty amount of stuff to get yourself killed.
I think you've confused 2C-B with 2C-T-7 which in fact have already caused few fatalities. But just because the abbreviated forms of the names are similiar you musnt think it's the same shit.
And afaik, 2C-B has been banned in almost all countries around the world.

 

The Flow knows some SWIMs who have done 320 mg's of -b I believe.