Stimulant effects of 2c-e vs. mdma?

I have 500mg of 2c-e coming in the mail (from company "p" in europe) and I was wondering if the stimulant effects are similar to MDMA. If so, how? Please clarify because I'd like to know before I ingest this, supposedly, AMAZING compound. MDMA is the only phenethylamine that I have experience with(a single experience with 2 1/2 triple stacks) and there were basically no cardio effects, aside from initial anxiety-related increase in pulse rate that subsided after a few minutes, but I was wondering if the case will be different with 2c-e. Thanks for any info and advice.

P.S.-I have some xanax if I need to abort.

 

Some report a positive stimulation, some a rough body-load, and yet others very few somatic effects. Effects in this regard appear to be variable… by person, by dose, etc… One remembers seeing a post by The Flow basically reporting all sorts of variations with regard to stimulation, presence of visuals, etc. It included objective BP readings as well lets see if we can conjure it up…

Ah here we go:

The thread can be found here: http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117632

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^^^Thanks. That was somewhat helpful. I would still like to hear of some more first-hand accounts of effects on heart rate and if there are any extreme cases of tachycardia. Whenever I trip I always seem to focus on my heart rate and I tend to freak out if it seems abnormally high. I am usually able to handle it but it seems to cause a little more worry and ruins the trip to an extent, while still remaining somewhat enjoyable. I plan on starting with 10-13mg and see how it goes, regardless of what you guys tell me of the heart rate issue, but it would still be nice to know what to expect. Thanks.

 

Start with 10mg and have another 2 doses of 5mg each already prepared. If after 1 hour the 10mg seem to weak, take another 5mg. Wait for 60 - 90 mins., if it´s still too low, take the remaining 5mg.

For the first experiment, you shouldn´t go beyond 20mg!

btw: Thanx IB for reading my posts so attentive. I was already getting tired of telling people the same things again and again...

 

^^^That's what I plan on doing. What I really want to know is whether or not the stimulant effects of 2c-e are similar to MDMA. I know that some of you may not have even paid attention to your heartrate while under the influence of either of these drugs, but I would really like to know. As I mentioned, MDMA is the only phen I have done and I enjoyed it thoroughly, and my heart rate stayed at about 85bpm. I want to know if that will be the case with the 2c-e based on what you all have experienced?

I know this sounds idiotic, but it would comfort me greatly to know what to expect, stimulation-wise.

 

Are you really sure it was MDMA? Normally und that stuff, your heartbeat should increase far beyond 100bpm...

The stimulation of 2C-E cannot be compared with MDMA. It´s very different. Under MDMA, there´s also lots of euphoria, under 2C-E, there´s only little (if ever). 2C-E is mostly a visual enhancer. Colours are much brighter and you´ll see much more colours than when being sober (e.g. if you look at a tree, you´ll be able to see more than 100 variations of green...). Watching cartoons or very colourful movies (e.g. "Yellow Submarine" or "Back to Gaya" or some of the "Dreamworks"(TM) movies) is a great thing to do.
Be prepared for some nausea and gastrointestinal irritation during the first 60-90 minutes. Eating some fresh ginger with the chemical is a good way to avoid (or at least reduce) this.
If it gets too much for you, smoking some weed can help.

If you need more info, feel free to ask.
Have a pleasant trip!

 

Thanks man. I have read your posts in the past and have already purchased the ginger for the occasion. I also plan on eating a couple of dramamine as well.

What I gather from this post is that MDMA is much more stimulating, centrally, than 2c-e, which is what I was asking.Thanks for the info.

 

I must add, that very high doses of 2C-E (above 40mgs) can become very stimulating (even more than MDMA). They can - they don´t necessarily have to!

 

The body load is very much like a phen though IMO.

 

With my experience the other night I really didn't notice any body load or nausea. I ate some benedryl, so that may have had something to do with it. I was also drunk as shit and eating xanax, diethylpropion, and diclofenac. I had a shitload of each of these substances. Probably not the safest idea, but it worked out OK. Next time I plan to measure my dosage. I planned on measuring it the first time, but I was fucked up and just said fuck it and ended up tripping for over 20 hours total, I think. I ate a shitload of the 2ce at noon, which is when I first recieved it in the mail, and I was still tripping at 6am the next morning when I went to bed. Then, I woke up at 10am and I was STILL tripping. Maybe I just ate too much of it, because over half of my index finger was covered in powder and I dipped it twice. I'm not sure if I really tripped as long as I think I did, but it was certainly over 15 hours.

 

i found 2c-e to be alot more stimulating than mdma.

 

^i should add that it was more stimulating both mentally and physically and the 2 should not even be compared.

 

Yes, 2c-e is very psychedelic. MDMA is not really.

 

true, true...