pregnancy, sex and sore tits

Who cares? All those children by the time she is twenty? I do not need anymore info. I am a mental health professional, and I've seen these "mothers", and "women", actually teens. No, I don't care about the answers. It is irresposible, no matter how you look at it. I don't believe she was raped (not that she said so,but some do) all those times and produced children from them.. They were not even acidental pregnancies, I'll bet that. These were planned, no matter if a GIRL not a grow woman says "oh, it was an accident, FOUR TIMES. ENOUGH!!! Have some control over your body, and try to talk those you are having sex with for control over their body. I am an adult. I did everything that I was supposed to do i.e. college, grad school, and THEN marriage and kids. Duhhhhhh! You people don't care if you don't even have what it takes, including maturity. At twenty, one can barely babysit themselves, not four babies!! Don't come down on me for the absolute truth. You are irresposible for geting pregnant sooo many times before you are even out of adolescence!! You won't pay attention, because you all praise those that post ticker tapes at 15 to show that THEY TOO WILL BE MOMMIES. VERY SAD!!! How about just waiting until you can legally drink before you have children that you must teach life lessons to. You cannot be prepared with four children at 20. And I don't care if her breasts were never tender until this last pregnancy. Is she going for the world record? I see everyday how people are praising those on line that have done nothing in their lives but get pregnant, not once, twice, three times, but now four, what's next? Quads? What a blessing!? You are probably an adolescent yourself, and if not, you had babies very young also, probably years ago when the economy was a bit better. I will never have wonderful things to say about a child giving birth to a child. And I am in the delivery room, so I think I know a bit better than many of you what happens after the excitment of the pregnancy is over and all they have left is a sreeching baby, which I'm sorry to say, takes a "bit" older woman to have the infinate patience for this child. An adolescent hasn't gone through college, work experience, not at a part-time, but a career oriented job. No, you should have your "sh--" together before you even plan these children. And most of these accidents are nothing of the sort. Argue with me when you have some form of nursing or other qualifications, not just sticking up for someone who you believe is a role model because she has been "up the spout" English expression, four times. Even the midwives talk about it, regardless of whether you believe they think all births are beautiful. Wrong again. Doulas and midwives feel bad for you even when they act like it is a MIRACLE!!! Blieve me when I tell you that.
Have a little control over your reproduction people!!! ENOUGH OF THE MILLION BABIES ALREADY! I BET I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE IN FIVE YEARS. You will be pregnant again, and you will be asking people for baby clothes they are no longer using. I am so glad I am an adult and can walk into the baby store and choose whatever strikes me as being wonderful. And I could actually have a cocktail at my own wedding. You people sound exactly like the children having children that you are. No props from me. I feel for the babies. What, besides your interest in video games will you have in common with those children. And good luck when they get to that age. You will be a grandparent at thirty. And if you think that is great, you are even more in the dark than I thought. Yeah, you are oh so cool for getting pregnant so young. You will regret it, I promise, in later life. Not the kids, but you will realize they could have been born a little bit later. But keep encouraging those who think it's a teens job to have a litter of children, and then beg for money and clothes. I have seen it all over this board. You praise absolutely ignorant people for getting pregnant becasue they can. I guess I could have had one when I got my period at age 10. And I'm sure most of you would NEVER even considered abortion! Oh, no! Not you!!! You will go on your needed welfare, which I am in favor of for people that really need it. Unfortunately, it will not be enough. And now you must return that welfare money once you have a full-time job. And welfare isn't forever as it used to be, I'm afraid. Food stamps aen't forever either. You can get WIC (Women,infants, and children) for a VERY short amount of time.
But GOOD LUCK. YOU ARE GOING TO NEED IT!!
P.S. Even if you were to 'try" and adopt a child now, you would NEVER be qalified in their eyes for that. And a corageous girl who wants her child raised by someonw who can give it all it deserves will not pick a teenage mom. Never in a million years. They are doing the corageousthing, and are thinking about their offspring's future. Well, immaturity is all part and parcel of this whole thing, so of coouse, even with twelve childre you think you are capable. Think again. And what about if you had a child with multiple traummas to the brain and body. Will you be able to have car for it 24/7? NO! So, don't believe you are the epitomy of a WOMAN because you managed to get pregnant too early. Yes, be proud that you have many children before you can even vote. Now, that is something, some accomplishment. How pathetic.

 

Wow, I couldn't even read all of that, but I'm starting on my own young, askign people for whatever they can give. I can't rightly afford the child I'm carrying, but money is not a big factor. And as others have said, you should get to know this person first before you start harping on them.

My mother had been pregnant 4 times before she was 20 years old, she has three children, but we didn't spend all of our time on welfare. She did right by us, and while we had to borrow other people's clothing and things, it taught each of us HUMILITY. I'm proud of my mother for making it when everyone told her to give up.

There are more things far more important in the prospect of being a parent, Cheshire Cat. One of those is not jumping to conclusions.

 

wow, I just can't help myself from responding again.

What a close-minded individual you must be to not only assume all of these horrible things about this young woman but then to disrespect every woman on the forums.

You did all of the things YOU were supposed to do in YOUR life. You went to college, good for you. You got married first, good for you. Some of us don't believe in marriage. Some of us don't want to go to university. How dare you come onto this board and disrespect all of the good people on here that devote their LIVES to their children, regardless of social stereotypes. Most of these women stay home with their children to make sure they've got the best possible parenting at the age they need it most. Being a career-oriented woman doesn't make you a great candidate for motherhood. That means you're splitting your attention between a full-time job AND a 24/7 job.
You think this young woman doesn't realise the sacrifice she's making for her children? You don't think she might not have regrets now? You honestly believe that an 18, 19, or 20 year old can't be as responsible, caring, and wise as a woman your age? Obviously, you're blatantly wrong. Sometimes, they can be more wise and caring than someone twice their age.
I'm not defending all of those teenage mothers that have children and then pawn them on their parents. However, most of the women on this forum that had children as teenagers live in their OWN homes, with loving husbands, and very well-cared for children.
Frankly, after reading your posts just in this thread, I can't help but wonder where you get your ideas. Without first hand experience as a mother, how can you possibly know how difficult and wonderous a job it can be, all at the same time? Before you flame every single mother on this board, at least give consideration to other ways of life. Remember, life takes all kinds.

 

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I have delivered more babies and been in a birthng room more times than you could dream, you'll probably reach that number because you will have no control over reproduction. Believe me, you would NEVER want to be on the other side of the table of peoploe that decides whether you should have children. What do you have to offer? No job, he has no job, you're taking care of someone without pay, you make "snow cones'" oh yeah, you are indeed ready.
Yes, I am much more patient than you could be at just twenty years old. I was there too.
Your pregnancy was in no way an accident. You were waiting for that stick to turn colors. You even (ridiulously) wondered why your "tummy was so tight and you felt sick. PLEASE!!!!!!! You planned it before you reached WA. It figures. Anyone who has talked about it says the same. You rebel!!
I won't go into your past posts and blog about these items. It will only show you as a liar and hypocrite. One hint, O, Chris!!! Brian is the first, my ass.
I did do EVERYTHING you will never do. I went to graduate school, when I doubt you will finish L.P.N., and try and remember this time, is less than R.N. You have already said that you and Brian were going to set up a funding method for the two of you becuse you are having a baby. You must be kidding. Others are MUCH more deserving, and that is who I work with. You are a COMPLETE waste of time, energy, and organs. You wil lhave a difficult time with your delivery,and I hope your Mid-wife told you that. the baby isn't stubborn because you can't hear it's heartbeat. Try real hard to think of another reason. You'll reach the conclusion. Don't contact me again. I by the way, I never told you that I am pregnant, but I don't need to worry, with what the doctor has said everything is fabulous. I can give my kid everything I never had. You, on the other had, will offer a space in your twin bed, I have tried to picture that, but I can't. Great start. You believe in sterilization too. You are a hypocrite and you won't abmit it. Read your early messages about GRA---! Remember that?! You are a laughable creature, and I'm not the only one to think so. If people are going to praise you for getting knocked up because you are a selfish human, then hoooray. You deserve no credit. You are a lying, jealous person. Yes, I have EVERYTHING to give a child. LOVE< STAY AT HOME MOMMY. ALL THE BEST. YOu will be on subsidy. I have worked in it too long and seen to many of YOU. Well, you are pretty much one in a lifetime. Please just don't contact me again. I find you pathetic and useless. My bathroom is nicer than your whole house. Nah,, being able to move around isn't important to a child. I really for sorry for that child. Please don't write to me again. I would love to see you though after the pregnancy. You still won't be able to move well enough. Oh, get a friggin job, not just snow-cones for chrit's sake. That was a laughand a half. We appreciated that. What a joke. I'm sooo jealous of you. Good luck in you uneducation and poverty. You won't, I bet a thousand dollars, finish nursing R.N. school. Mabe after you stop having kids, but who knows. Yeah, you willneed good luck Your Karma is awful because many may not know it, n=but I have been told and have noticed for myself that you are a liar and a phony. Who is Chris, when Brian (hah) is you "first" boyfriend. GET A SOLID JOB. YOU ARE ABLETO DO MOST THINGS . Except be a nurse, hahahahah.
Cheshire Cat (w kitten)
You are on ignore because you have been a thorn since you walked into my house. You are ridiculous. My first boyfriend and pregnancy, Oh. You better erase those things if you don't want people to know. I'm ignoring you now, loser. I feel sorry for that baby.

 

...a grandparent at 30? Wait, this womans going to be mother of a pregnant 10 year old?:O:O

Ill return when sober. This threads drunkeded me

 

I wish maggie sugar was here :-(

 

I'm not perfect. I won't pretend to be. I didn't attack you. I only tried to defend those ladies of this forum that deserve more respect than to be told that they are worthless for not fulfilling a society's expectations of adulthood.

I will admit to being angry and feeling very hurt, but in the end, adding more flame to the already burning madness of a thread way off track is not going to help matters. I'm sorry you feel the way you do, CheshireCat. I hope your pregnancy, birth, and life go very well, as you seem to have your life and ideas pretty firmly in place.

However, back to the matter at hand, I recently talked with my mother about her pregnancies and aches and pains associated with them. She said that her and those friends of hers that were pregnant at the same time all experienced different breast growth rates, as well as different levels of pain. She said that in your case, with naturally large breasts, aching is probably natural, as well as continued growth. She said that maybe a heated compress might help relieve some discomfort, and to tell your hubby to leave them alone. She's no expert, but as an experienced mommy, I thought her advice was as good as any.

 

Holly, those early posts weren't for you,but I guessed you would follow it with a "what about MEEEEEEEE?" Who cares. You never knew it because you weren't impotant enough to tell,but I am carrying a baby also. You lied in your earlier blogs and messages by saying this was your first pregnancy and first boyfriend. Where is Chris and ahh Grac---? Were they in your imagination, just like the fact that teen moms usually get married to the fether and live wonderful lives. You know nothing, I have been in that world,and even though you think you are corrct, you could't be more wrong.
I do not in any way think you will have an easy delivery. If you mid-wife sad all is o,k, she is lying. Believe me, Doulas and Mid-wives really don't like it when, ummmmm, someone of your stature comes in. You are ready for gestational diabetes. I'm surprised that you don't have to lose weight while pregnant. You will have to watch for hypertension too.
Your pregnancy was no accident,no matter how much you protest. You told everyone early that you had pains and tightnness in your "tummy". You knew. You were waiting for the stick to change color. Accident your ass.
Please never answer any posts I put down again. I have no interest in any ridiculous thing you have to say. Keep living in a dreamland. It must be better than your reality by far. yuuuuuuk. La,la,la,la,la, that is how you must go through the day,except you are on the computer all day. Find a decent job, and stop making eheheheh, SNOW CONES!!! Too funny. O.K. You no longer are alive to me,and I was better off never allowing you to enter my home,a home that you can only ever dream of having,unless Wa. state goes bankrupt. You even stupidly said that if I gave you a thousand dollars you could decorate my home. How is three dollars to do my laundry? Hmmmmm? Sounds up your speed. LoooooSsssssseeeerrrrrr.

 

By the way,I taught a new mother that was TEN YEARS OF AGE!!! Now, are you so smart? I think not. And I wasn't telling the one with hurting breasts, as she is not an adolescent. The one with four children at TWENTY, GROSSSSSSS. And you will have a far greater surprise handling that baby ALONE. Your "Mama" won't stay long. You will have to leave the baby to go back to scholl, as you said, the following semeser. A fool's paradise. I and my friend who are pregnant on the other hand,can teach our children WELL,and not a ninth grade education of even a stupid ear in college. That means nothing. You won't go back for a looooooooooong time. Bet ya money on that. If you go, you won't stay.

 

Gracie was not my biological daughter. She was my cousin's child. I kept her in my home while I was in my senior year of high school. I was taking college classes (12 hours a semester) as well as extra-curricular activities and caring for Gracie in the evenings/nights/mornings without classes/weekends/breaks. My mother kept her when I didn't, but when I was home, I had no help caring for her.

I think of her as my own child. It pained me to leave her with parents that didn't know how to care for her properly, but I did.

As far as any Chris, I know a Chris from the forum. I joke of him being a member of my "harem". He's only a friend. We've never met and I don't think we will anytime soon.

I also knew a Chris during my teenage years. I was very much smitten with him. He was one of my best friends, my first kiss, and a great person. Sadly he died in May 2004, after being hit by a drunken driver on a back road outside my town.

 

cheshirecat, you don;t seem to be a mental health professional to me. You are so angry and judgementel. I feel bad for your patients You and hippyfreak obvoiusly know eachother, so I'm not going to get in the middle of that crap, but Crystal, I assume you don't know, nor know anything about and you come here, judging her for no good reason. You know this is a hippy forum right? Full of love and peace and acceptance? If you have nothing nice to contribute to a thread, there is no reason for you to contribute. I have no idea if you have said anything specifically to me as you don't use any usernames in your posts, or paragraphs for that matter. Anyway, you should keep your profession in mind while attacking and degrading strangers.

 

iceteaprincess, I'm sorry your thread gained such unwanted negitivity (hug). How are your boobs by the way?

 

I have been and focalized more Gatherings than you would ever dream. When someone who lives in a fantasy like d=some of you, I do no have anything to do withthemat all at a gathring. You feel d=soory for my pts./ They seem more on the ball thanany of you. I'm full of love ofr non-jealous liars who must out themselves in people's convos in person. Do you really think any of your friends would be invited again. Ha, ha, It is to jaugh. My patients are street wise and down to earth. if they lie tome,I will approach the topic. ANyway,enjoy your uhhh yeah pregnancies and good luck in your poverty.

And I also have agod son that is like my child, even though he is probably better off than yours. You talked about Chris doing something to you, "While you were pregnant! I nor any one elsereading it,made a mistake. You said that Chris did somsthing to you when you were PREGNANT. Was that a "push" of the truth too. And if you think therapy is alllove and understanding, i can understand why so many are having babies when they are teens. It is realy sad, from sll standpoints but yur and the "fathers" of these bebies. I'll see you on your 25thanniversary hehehehehehe. NOT! I willnot be cencored by the likes of you. Please! Don't make me laugh more than I am already. I will show this to some of the mothers I've helped. It should put a spring into their step.

 

Man, I really wish I knew who you were talking to. It sounds like you're talking to me, but you don't know anything about me, my friends or my financial status. I'm just so confused. Oh, and chechirecat, it's really had to read what your trying to say with all those typos. Maybe you could proofread and edit? You said you'd been to school, right?

 

No, you don't need NY MONEY TO RAISE A HEALTHY CHILD. iF YOU NEED TO BEG FOR MONEY, YOU ARE not READY. YOU WAITED TO BE PREGNANT,AND EVERYONE WHOM I HAVE TALKED TO AGREES. What a joke. It was an accident. How was I supposed to know I would ovulate? You know by now, and you knew it then. How irresronsible of you. I'm putting you on ignore. You are so dumb and boring that you are making me ill. My baby will start kicking early if I keep reading your lies and hlaf-truths.

 

Who the hell are you talking to???

 

I'm so sorry, IcedTeaPrincess.

 

Lady, I have not a clue who you are, but I am going to tell you to crawl out of my daughters ass and live your own life. for you to get so upset about something that has no bearing on your life shows the emotional instability you have.
I want you to know that you can say what ever you want about me, because atleast you are leaving someone else alone. But to say that you are going to be a good mother to your child, lady at your age you can be a good grandma to your own child. For what ever reason Holly and Brian are going to be parents, as long as they are HAPPY about it, that is all that matters.
Opinions are like assholes and Lady, yours stink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Ooo, Hippyfreek, I like yo momma LOL