Answer me this...

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by TrippinBTM, Jan 1, 2006.

  1. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    How does from Friday afternoon to Sunday morning equal three days? Christian math is pretty strange...
     
  2. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Friday, Saturday, Sunday....
     
  3. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    Friday, Saturday, And Sunday...Like that :p i don't think they meant 72 full hours...
     
  4. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    *Gulp*.. well errr. what happened was that some writers just made up a story and there was a little mistake but even when they were editing and rewriting the story during the Council of Nicea .. woops.... they actually forgot to correct even the most obvious mistakes like that one.
    Dumb eh?

    Christians are so stupid that they just 'believe' its 72 hours because they refuse to acknowledge reality and...

    Just kidding.
    Its 'Jewish Math' actually and their clock started at Sundown (if I recall) and actually Im told this is also 'Oriental' day keeping of the region in general.
    A Part of a day (to our keeping) is spoken of as 'A day' in their manner of speech.
    One of the reasons we know that is because they use that sort of thing in other scriptures.
    So we are not confused when we see it used here.
    "Three days and three nights" is simply Hebrew idiom. The phrase "one day and one night" meant a day, even when only a part of a day was indicated. We see this, e.g., in 1 Sam 30:12-13 (cf. Gen 42:17-18).

    The only real controversy over this starts when critics insist on using the most wooden 'fundamentalist' and strictest interpretations possible.
    They often claim they are opposed to such things unless its when they want to interpret a 'contradiction' - then its game-on for disallowing common Idioms and cultural differences etc.



     
  5. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    If that's true, I'm satisfied. I just always wondered about that, I mean, "friday saturday sunday" is bullshit, because it was from friday afternoon to some time early on sunday (dawn, i suppose). I mean, it spans 3 days but doesn't actually add up to 3. jesus talked about tearing the temple down and rebuilding it in 3 days. Would that also be indicating something spanning 3 days but not covering the totality of the 3 days?

    So, are you sure that's true? Or is it just fudging the answer to make it work?
     
  6. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    Its true. muslims *as for as i know* still fast like that...from sun up to sun down repersenting one day
     
  7. Kris?

    Kris? Senior Member

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    and the friday saturday sunday is only BS if you take it as a litteral 72 hours and not just three sepreate days of the week....its like saying "i stayed up all day sunday and didn't go to bed till 3am monday" when in all truth you woke up at 5am sunday morning...did you not stay up all day because you didn't wake up excatly 12am?...i think its just how you interpet it
     
  8. Erasmus70

    Erasmus70 Banned

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    Honestly that was how they counted days back then. You find other examples of that in 'Bible Contradiction' type sites and they never seem to mention that (for exampe) Passover would start on (what we would say) the time it got dark on the day before.
    Ok.. maybe im just making this more confusing but basically 'Thursday' ended when Thursdays Sun went down.

    The sorta technicality they try and get on one of the gospel accounts is saying 'Day and Night'.
    Well ok, the only problem is that we would have to take the strictest literalist interpretation.
    The reason we do not is because we recognise that 'Idiom' from other passages, where its also a Hebrew Idiom.

    So basically, you can make a good argument for it being a problem IF we are speaking our language in our 'day clock' but otherwise its just the Hebrews 'way' of speaking and describing things.
     
  9. heron

    heron Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    more like 36 hours. AND with that said, did jesus die for you sins? or just have a shitty weekend?
     
  10. White Feather

    White Feather Senior Member

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    It may have been a double high religious day, so chances are that he was crucified on a Wednesday instead.
     
  11. kt smith

    kt smith Member

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    Well, we have to make dates as convenient as possible so that we don't have any more holiday breaks... For all we know, Jesus could have died on Teusday but that should not matter. All that matters is that we give praise to the God that sent his son down to us to save us.
     
  12. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Ok, I knew about their day ending at sundown, but that really still won't give us three days (in our modern literal sense) so I'm not sure why you keep going on about that. Still, I'll ask it, just because I'm curious: If thursday ends when thursday's sun sets, when does friday begin? At thursday's sunset, or on friday's sunrise?

    I'll also add this. While I will accept what you're saying about this still being considered 3 days, don't you bible people always tell us critics to stop overanalyzing and just READ THE BIBLE AS IT READS? When we tell you stuff like "well, to the ancient Jews, this saying isn't a literal thing but would have been understood to mean this...", we always have someone fire back at us "you're reading too much into it, just read the book, it's actually very simple, and interprets itself."

    Well, this surely must be an example of when it DOESN'T interpret itself. If you don't research it to understand this Hebrew Idiom of day counting, then the only way you can read this is to see that Jesus said he'd be dead 3 days, but was actually only dead one and a half (though spanning 3) days (that's from maybe 3ish friday till sunup sunday).
     
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