Pink Floyd ~ Early era? Late?

Discussion in 'Music' started by DeadHead~, Jan 2, 2006.

  1. DeadHead~

    DeadHead~ Member

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    Hey guys,
    Very Very curious to see if more people dig the direction Syd took Floyd in, the more lighthearted pschedelic era. (Piper)

    Or Waters direction and the more serious path like Dark Side and the Wall.

    Both very exellent, just wondering what you think.

    Peace :)
     
  2. TheLizardKingMike

    TheLizardKingMike Members

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    I couldn't really tell you. I love Barrett and Piper at the Gates of Dawn is an amazing album. But I love The Wall and Darkside, but they probably would not have been so well recieved with Syd as the guitarist the whole time, especially after he went nuts. I like Syd's solo work more than when he was with Floyd. Seems like a guy like that would be very hard to work with in a band. But without Barrett ever coming along, Pink Floyd would have been very different. So I'm just gonna say that Pink Floyd has always been awesome, and will always be awesome.
     
  3. GratefulFloyd

    GratefulFloyd Nowhere to fly to

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    I love Syd's work but the albums released in the seventies are amazing. I'd choose the Waters era.
     
  4. EnterTheFarside

    EnterTheFarside the cats pajamas

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    I take Waters over Syd
     
  5. THE GOLDEN STRING

    THE GOLDEN STRING Senior Member

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    syd





    but thats not to say they both were not amazing

    syd had more sadness in him so i relate a lot better
     
  6. stebo32

    stebo32 amanita monster

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    humm well. syd era is just piper you know... so voting for syd is like i vote for Piper at the gates of Dawn... which I dont like that much, its too simple.. I vote the era when Syd just left... so like from A saucerful Of Secrets until The Dark Side Of the Moon
    I love the experimental Ummagumma, and Meddle, and Atom Heart Mother.. its amazing, I dont like the direction Waters took... From Dsotm (good) to momentary lapse of reason (crap)
     
  7. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    yes!!!
     
  8. THE GOLDEN STRING

    THE GOLDEN STRING Senior Member

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    Barrett's decline had a profound effect on Roger Waters' song-writing, and the theme of mental illness would permeate Pink Floyd's later albums, particularly 1973's Dark Side of the Moon and 1979's The Wall. Wish You Were Here (1975) was a conscious tribute to Barrett




    yes
     
  9. stebo32

    stebo32 amanita monster

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    yea . i know, thats all true. but still, like i said i didnt really like piper at the gates of dawn, (i love barrett's solo works though)... and for waters stuff. he wrote awesome songs, while the whole band was working as one... but then, he took too much control, and the Wall for me.. is a disaster... and after that, its chaos.
     
  10. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    syd.

    that was easy.
     
  11. Imagine17

    Imagine17 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Both...for different reasons.

    But I do <3 Syd...he's my fav. of the group.
     
  12. scents&subtlesou

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    Syd's era is the shit!!! so good live! i've got this bootleg, oh man i nearly cried listening to it, absoloutly amazing! i like everything produced in his era, but i only like Dark Side from Waters.....and i love dark side, one of the greatest albums ever!!! its the sound, that is recognized as Pink Floyd....when you think of Floyd, you think of that sound, if you know what i mean.....but in the end, i love the experimental early stuff more.....
     
  13. LaylaSkye_Loves_Geo

    LaylaSkye_Loves_Geo Member

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    See, I find Syd completely useless.

    Piper at the Gates of Dawn I hated....

    A lot of people love him strictly because he's was so tragically lost to the world....not his lyrics. I find a great deal of them meaningless and stupid.

    come on "I've got a bike, you can ride it if you like"

    I think Waters is a much better songwriter, and Dave Gilmour is a million times better as a guitarist. So I'd definently have to vote for later Floyd

    ~Layla
     
  14. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    You have no appreciation for British psychedelia.

    Besides, you act as if Syd only wrote about bikes, cloaks, and gingerbread men.

    "And I stood very still by the window sill
    And I wondered for those I love still
    I cried in my mind where I stand behind
    The beauty of love's in her eyes

    She was long gone, long, long gone
    She was gone, gone, the bigger they come
    The larger her hand, tell no one, understand,
    Why for so long she'd been gone

    And I borrowed a page from a leopard's cage
    And I prowled in the evening sun's glaze
    Her head lifted high to the light in the sky
    The opening dawn on her face"

    Those lyrics don't sound any more "meaningless and stupid" than Waters' best work.
     
  15. DeadHead~

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    I don't Know if I would base Syd's lyrical ability on "Bike". [​IMG]
     
  16. MeMilesAway

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    I choose Waters' direction over Barrett's. With Barrett the band was still pretty green. Waters' tried to give the band depth and purpose. Watch Umaguma (sp?) and you can see Roger's drive to harness the perfect sounds...like when the Dead played the pyramids...a quest for something sonically ethereal.
     
  17. THE GOLDEN STRING

    THE GOLDEN STRING Senior Member

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    for the folks that think piper sucked then they need to know that it inspired a new style of music such as sgt peppers lonley hearts club band








    THE GNOME

    I want to tell you a story
    'bout a little man
    If I can.
    A gnome named Grimble Grumble.
    And little gnomes stay in their homes.
    Eating, sleeping, drinking their wine.

    He wore a scarlet tunic,
    A blue green hood,
    It looked quite good.
    He had a big adventure
    Amidst the grass
    Fresh air at last.

    Wining, dining, biding his time.
    And then one day - hooray!
    Another way for gnomes to say
    Whoooooooooooooooooooooam I?

    Look at the sky, look at the river
    Isn't it good?
    Look at the sky, look at the river
    Isn't it good?
    Winding, finding places to go.
    And then one day - hooray!
    Another way for gnomes to say
    Whoooooooooooooam I ?
    Whoooooooooooooooooooooam I
     
  18. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    I like nick mason's era the best.
     
  19. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    Actually, I believe that The Piper at the Gates of Dawn was being recorded at the same time that Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was being recorded. So, right, what you said doesn't really make sense. :p
     
  20. madcrappie

    madcrappie crazy fish

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    umm sgt peppers was finished before piper, and the album that drew the most inspiration from the other was piper from sgt peppers.... even rick wright was blown away by what the beatles were doing with sgt peppers, and he was really into jazz music at the time, and not so much so with pop....... Im sure there could have been a little pink floyd influence, but not much (paul mccartney was seen at a few floyd gigs incognito)..... there was an interlap of studio time between the two bands......I think there could have been an intermingling between ideas, but to say that Piper inspired sgt peppers is a bit farfetched...... sgt peppers was more inspired by pet sounds
     
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