Israel after Sharon

The entire Israeli state could be considered extremists. I'd consider the wall an "extremist" attack, considering it displaced thousands of Palestinians.

 

i thought that bibi netanyahu's people were gonna assassinate sharon anyway when he came out about the new party.

 

btw i hat sharon only slightyl less than ihate netanyahu

yitzhak rabin's corpse could rule beter

 

Thought I'd post this one. It summarizes some of the attacks in the Mideast and elsewhere.

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/pubs/fs/5902.htm

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So can the USA, anf many other nations on earth.

Yet, unlike those countries, Israel obtained possesion of its land legaly through the United Nations.

How is the wall possibly extremist? Is it any worse than boarder patrol on the Rio Grande?

Palestinians can still access Israel through checkpoints. The only people that oppose the wall are the terrorists who now cannot get into Israel as easily.

 

Israeli politics do not work on a basis of inter-party assassination

 

Sadly enough, "suicide attack" and "Israel" appears way too often there.

 

quote: how is the wall possibly extremist?

Yea really, Israel is racist and extremist for trying to slow the tide of suicide bombings

 

Sharon or no Sharon, there's little future for the Jewish State.


The place and the population are as tiny as are the odds of its survival.

So tiny, that a mere 5 nuclear weapons could incinerate that sliver of land in an instant.

5million surrounded and infiltrated by 250million commited and dedicated neurotic Semites with as much money as anger.

Any day some little spinter-group will get nuclear, chemical or biological weapons of mass destruction.

If I was Jewish and lived there, I'd be thinking, Germany 1936, and plan my escape.

 

Israel has enough nuclear weapons to protect itself from any attack... plus we already have developed anti-nuclear weapon missiles and such.

 

Nuclear deterence against who?

How does one defend against anonymous in your face nuclear detonation.

With Patriot Missles?

Don't bet your life on it.

 

No, we have missles much more powerful than those.

 

Well, the political turmoil is starting. Riblin is calling all the Likud members to resign and therefore fight Olmert's "Leftist" ideas.

This will be the true test for Olmert, to see if he manages to cope with this, or if he breaks down.

If he copes, then there just might be a strong leader in him.

 

Because it draws new, arbitrary borders in the West Bank.

Because it breaks the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

etc etc

 

...while the Palestinian terrorists wish to completely wipe out an entire nation, and specifically target civilians.

Please tell me which of the two is more extremistic.

 

Regardless of whether it's Olmert or Netanyahu, the Arabs will have to be expelled or the Jews will soon become a minority in Israel.

Under Netanyahu's West-Bank expansion that could happen in the next 15yrs.

While under Olmert's behind-the-wall it could take maybe 35yrs.

Either way, without the expulsion of the Arabs, there will soon no longer be a Jewish State, or the Jewish State will have to be a minority-ruled state like the old Aparteid South Africa.

I'm not trying to sound smug, because, even though I live on a large continent, I'm stuck between a nuclear sub-base and a large amo-dump.

We here are also held hostage to a foriegn policy tied to the delusional myths of OUR national identity.

All I have to do is squeeze all that into the tight little pressure cooker that you're inside of there, and I can begin to relate to your situation.

But you know that, you've been here, and you also know that, despite our short comings, there's more of a future for you here than there.

 

Those are strong words. There thousnads upon rhousnads of arabs in Israel who are semi-functional in society

I agree, the "perfect" solution for Israel wou;d be removing the Arabs... yet, perfection does not exist... this would be a direct violation of human rights; no one would take them as it is.

There is future everywhere.

 

How strangely similar your "perfect" solution sounds to another ideologically inspired group "solution" with which your forbears were fearfully familiar.

Just another rabid Zionist revealing his true disreagrd for the humanity of those your state founders and leaders repeatedly referred to as "not a people" or "dogs". Your posts are as excusatory of your own state's atrocious terrorist, ethnocidal origins as one could expect from a Sharon supporter.

Fortunately there are honest Israeli scholars who acknowledge that the root causes for the birth and the generations long maintenance of the conflict rest squarely on the shoulders of the state of Israel itself and the ideological lies to which far too many of its citizens, like yourself, continue to cling.

 

I quote it as "perfect" because extremists think of it as perfect. I think that it is a terrible and weak minded solution. Do not be so quick to judge. I will always be a fan of Rabin, no one else has gotten closer to achieving something similar to peace. Sharon is (was) the only person in Israeli politics who actually took action now.

I have no Zionism in me, that should have been obvious from my years of posting here.

 

Morally, however, there is a huge difference between the two groups.

Israel is a democracy - therefore any actions, especially state-sponsored terrorism, taken by the government reflect on its civilian population.

Palestinians are only an ethnic group - punishing all of them because some are "terrorists" is an act of genocide.