DPT Oral Administration - First Attempt

I haven't tripped for several months despite having some DPT HCl on hand, and despite my overwhelmingly beautiful and strange experience with insufflating it, the act of actually snorting this stuff is too unpleasant to deal with, given the high dosage and the really light, fine and irritating nature of this chemical.

Oral administration is supposed to take a much higher dosage for most, though some still report mild effects at as low as 50mg (i think Murple at erowid suggests this for a light trip, and 100mg for a stronger trip based on his experience). Well, I've got a day off and I figured I'd give this a try. I dosed at roughly 80mg, though many report needing to take as much as 250-500mg for full effects. the dosage is widely variable and dependant on the person, so most likely I will fell little, if anything, but I wanted my first attempt to be relatively conservative just in case it surprises me.

I'll let you all know how it goes.

 

feeling some minor effects. it's only been an hour or so since taking them. perhaps this will grow into something more dramatic? perhaps it will just be a day of enhanced awareness only. either way is fine by me.

 

Have a nice trip!

 

i did experience effects, but i would describe them as threshold at best. its pleasant, no nausea or anything, just a bit detached with a slight body buzz (its active for sure, i noted the distinctive DPT body feeling, albeit more muted than with a strong nasal trip)

i achieved no noted visuals, though i'm sure some slight CEV activity would have been present were i meditating.

i still am slightly off, but no more "fucked up" than i'd be if i had just smoked a bowl. perhaps the effect is slightly less profound than that, even. this is a short lasting trip even orally (strong oral doses will last for about 4 hours aparently...this is a very weak dose for me and it's now t+~2.25 hours)

i imagine i would have had a trip comparable to about 1.5-2.5g dried cubensis if i had doubled my dosage. pleasant, perhaps wasteful though.

 

Now after 2 days, how would you summarize your experience? Were there after effects? How was your sleep afterwards?

 

man its like you read my mind. the next day i had written out most of exactly what you're asking, but stopped and didnt actually post it because i figured no one was really interested.

anyway, i was rather depressed all the rest of the day about various things, and eventually was reminded of a dinner i had to go to with some people that night. i had long since stopped feeling the "drug" effects of the substance, but while no longer effected by the DPT, i was still affected by it very strongly. all night i was very uncomfortable with these people whom i'm otherwise thrilled to be around, and still feeling somewhat outside myself, somewhat removed. i had gotten somewhat stoned first in an attempt to cheer up a bit before going out, but this just made me more quiet and reserved and didn't help my mood whatsoever.

it's worth mentioning that a depressed or removed state of mind occasionally manifests after i trip, and two key factors seem to influence it the most for me. the first is the time of day of the trip. the earlier in the day it is for me (in relation to when i woke up) when the effects wear off, the more likely i am to get in a slump. how bad it is also seems to be an indirect correlation to how strong the trip was. if i have a profound trip, chances are less likely that i'll feel bad at all, and if i do the degree to which it occurs will be less. i usually feel somewhat unpleasant if i simply reach minimal threshold effects on a psychedelic and nothing more. my theory is that when i take a psychedelic i've got a certain idea of how i'll feel and think during the trip. when i take a tiny dose, though, it seems to be only enough to very awkwardly shift my modes of thought without making me "fucked up," but which still means i'm under the influence of the drug and more prone to letting feelings and emotions build up and become enhanced by the drug. perhaps it is usually feelings of disappointment with the drug experience twisting around and revealing instead my disappointment with myself and my life (in unrelated areas of life)

but i suppose i've gone on something of a tangent.

that night i slept terribly, even by my standards. i got home around 10 and really just wanted to sleep, but didnt end up going to bed until about 11oclock or midnight. i didnt actually fall asleep until about 4, and woke up a few times throughout before i had to get up at 8 to get ready for work.

despite all this i woke up fine, started and ended the day in a positive mood, a hundred times better than i'd felt the day before. i even briefly hung out with a friend i haven't seen in a long time, and we went to go look at this really bizarre building near my home (tangent time!). its a somewhat interesting looking building, but for as long as i can remember it's had a "closed" sign in the front window, so i suppose it used to be some sort of store, though it could easily be a residence from the looks of it. it stands on the corner of two roads that have been very important to me and my friends the last few years, because almost ALL of us had to turn on the intersection everyday, several times, to get to the park we all hung out at. i don't know if its the aparent dust and decay of the years, or the fact that it's been unused for so long or perhaps even some bizarre quality of the building itself that allows it to escape notice. since yesterday, i can recollect (somewhat) what it looks like. before that i tried and tried and tried but could come up with nothing. my friend said the same thing. and i've discussed it with several other friends of mine, all who said similar things. few people even remember there's a building there at all. far fewer can recall what it looks like, what it used to be, if it's even been there at all until recently (which is rediculous if you actually see the run down appearance of it)

the wierd thing about nobody ever noticing or remembering this building is that it is so prominent in the view, so wierd looking, and by these suburban standards practically dilapidated. (dirty, paint peeling from places, few things may look broken etc.) the shape is rather unique. maybe not unique, but very out of place for its location. it's large, and its RIGHT ON the corner of the two roads - on the corner that should be most seen by me in the directions i'd be driving. and its literally across the street from the gas station i nearly ALWAYS go to.

what is it that could allow countless people to ignore, forget, and entirely miss some prominent architectural/geographical feature? its as if the place simply slips out of our minds - like i said, even those of us who know theres a building there at all seem to have a complete inability to accurately remember what it looks like or even what we think the building might have been. when i used to try to remember what it looked like and what it was, i would inevitably end up thinking of a shop down the street from my house when i was a little kid in ft. wayne, indiana. my friend i went to see it with remembered it as looking like a church. it didnt look a damn thing like either one. and the harder you try to remember, the more it eludes you....like watching a deer far away in the woods....you'll catch enough of a glimpse to know theres something there without ever actually being able to get a good view of it. if you try to run and catch up, it will outrun and outmanuver you. this building is like that when you try to remember it. even though i paid special attention to it to remember, the more i write about it and try to remember it, the more i can't, so i have to restrain myself or i'll completely lose it.

this of course is all entirely irrelevant, but it sort of connected to the original post somehow, and while its not a description of drug effects or anything i suppose it more closely resembles a journal entry or something, and gives a "Day 2" perspective of where my mind was the next day, what i was thinking about and such.

 

good info.
i have heard from many that dpt can be intense. but i looked at my supplier and it is way too much money for the quanity. esp when you have to take 100mg and more.
\i am interested in finding a good tryptamine rc to get. i have done many phen's and want to try the other tryp'.s. any sugesstions?

 

50mg insufflated is a good "basic" dose

of course you can get DPT freebase and smoked it and it will take even less, and be more intense and shortlived still.

it is pricey compared to some other chems, but i feel that it has many advantages over certain chemicals. if i had a reliable means of getting "there" every time then i would choose it over mushrooms any day of the week. thats why next time i'm going to get the freebase, it seems more what i'm looking for. i figured insufflation and oral routes would be easier for the "getting acquainted" period. i also feel it has greater established safety than most other RCs commonly available, and it has a very natural tryptamine feel (far different from 2C-E, which while amazing, still feels alien and "toxic," especially during the come up)

again, its worth noting that my lack of any substantial experience was mostly caused by my admittedly very conservative dosage. it was for safety reasons though.

i really wish to explore this substance further, but its so hard to ingest comfortably. i loved the insufflated experience, but it was too uncomfortable physically. i'm very anxious to try smoking it, though.

 

DPT is most closely related both in action and structure to DMT. i haven't tried all three, but simply due to the more visual nature of it i'd suggest DPT may be a likely candidate for being more like DMT than 5-MeO-DMT, though people who've used both generally say that DPT is still very different in many respects. while the subjective experiences may be different, DPT -can- still be on par with DMT in terms of intensity of experience. it all depends on dosage, personal tolerance to it, and most importantly the method of administration.

it seems to be most efficient smoked or injected according to the reading i've done. i would never attempt or recommend injection of any rc you bought online, as possibly minute and otherwise negligable contaminants could actually prove quite dangerous, but it seems to be the best method in a clinical setting. same for DMT. next on the list for both of them is smoking, however i believe you can smoke DMT salts, but DPT has to be freebase to be smoked. both can be insufflated, and last longer and take longer to come on this way than smoking or injecting. DPT can be taken orally without an MAOi, but the dosages vary wildly and most people suggest it's second rate to insufflation or smoking. while you dont NEED an MAO inhibitor to experience the effects of oral DPT, MAO still breaks it down somewhat and 50mg of DPT HCl with some rue seeds or something is supposed to make a stunning DPT-based huasca analog. oral administration lasts longer and is less intense, unless you take the MAO inhibitors.

i'd definitely say DPT is among the most revered substances on the list of things i've had the fortune of encountering, probably even beating out mushrooms and 2C-B. however, the increase in potential also means an increase in potential for misuse. even more than mushrooms or acid or 2C-E....THIS IS NOT A TOY. it can be painful, it can be powerful, and it can throw you into the most unspeakably bizarre states of mind you can imagine....