Were the moon landings faked?

I knew a guy, a religious fundamentalist, I'm not sure what church he attended, but this guy was like something out of the 15th century. The earth is 6000 years old based on the generations listed in the old testament or some shit. When the subject of dinosaurs came up he said all the fossils are not only hoaxes, but they were planted. Planted! There are fossils everywhere. This would have been an impossible hoax to perpetrate, and to what end? To contradict the bible. Big deal. But people actually believe this crap.

 

He claims that MEN planted the fossils to undermine the bible?!?!

I've met a few fundies who claimed that GOD put them there as a trick to "test man's faith", but I never heard that one before...

 

ah yes
but if we can't trust god
who can we trust?

 

I don't know if i like the idea of trusting something that isn't here physically on earth. We should trust an idea (god) rather than people and things on earth that we deal with every day? I don't think so mate

 

I read in an interview with one of the astronauts that he said there were aliens watching them from a near by crater and when they were leaving,through the radio transmission they were told by the aliens to "Not Come Back Or You Will Pay/SufferThe Consequences(sp?)

I also heard that there is a city on the Dark Side of The Moon....

 

OOoohh, Big words.

Of course they landed. How else would the reflectors get up there? Roswell, well, that's another conspiracy story

 

In reference to the question of this thread, I do have something to add to the topic of the validness of the Moon Landing.
My Father (RIP) worked on that project from the late 50's till 73'. He invented several of the high tech satilites and computers that he wasn't permitted to talk about. Altho he wasn't able to tell us directly what was going on, he used the bible and what he knew about space and taught us to read inbetween the symbolic depictions of the bible and the conicidence of other worlds and other spiecies of beings, superior in intelegence. He opened our little minds to new possibilites and he taught us to think for ourselves. He also knew about Hanger 51 and the aliens that were there and their spacecraft. He knew the truth, he worked for the government hands on these projects. When Appolo was in trouble they called my Dad from NASA in the middle of the night. They sent a heliocopter to Autonetics in Anahiem where he worked and he had to meet them and they took him to NASA to fix the computer that was in the homing devise and communication setup. He got a letter from the president and all the astronauts thanking him for bring them home safely.
I have my beliefs, my father never lied to me, he was a good and honest man.
It doen't matter if you believe it or not what is, is, what will be, will be.
Brightest Blessings
sh

 

it was faked. i was there.

 

So the moon landings happened in the 80s... mmmm i am thinking somebody is not being honest..

I was there...

 

I say no they were not.... one more bean for that pile



Mike...

 

Look at where we are today. Whether it was faked or it wasn't, it was a key that opened our minds to the possibilities of greater things which opened the doors that we now have.

The idea that it could've easily been faked is obvious, but why dwell on the past? What we are capable of doing today, could also point us to the conclusion that it was not faked. So I guess you would consider me as leaning towards the "it's pretty" option. It is indeed magnificent to look at.

 

But the moon landings COULDN'T have been "easily" faked. In fact, faking them would have been far harder than actually LANDING ON THE MOON.

Sure, a cheesy movie shot on a desert soundstage MIGHT have been enough to convince Joe Sixpack and his wife watching the moonwalk on TV, but the world's scientists and engineers were also watching, and wouldn't have been fooled by primitive special effects.

Astronomers and ham radio operators WORLDWIDE were able to track the ships all the way to the moon and back, so claims that Apollo either never flew or stayed in earth orbit the whole time are easily disproven. Even with 21st century technology, such a thing (radio signals from deep space) would be IMPOSSIBLE to fake using satellites or whatever.

The rock and soil samples that were brought back were also examined by geologists and chemists from many countries INCLUDING THE SOVIET UNION, who would have LOVED to expose any hoax for their own political advantage.

EVERY CLAIM made by the "moon hoax" crowd is easily demolished with a little science and common sense.

 

The Moon hoax, WTC conspiracy groups, and the creationists should all form a coalition. With their relentless tenacity, they'd be unstoppable.

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I really think that the moon landings couldn't have been faked. It was too big a risk for the U.S. to, especially with the Soviets there, ready to catch anything "fake".

 

My God, I saw this thread about three months ago but never posted it because I really couldn't give a shit. I can't believe it is still going.

 

lol i got bored with it after the first page of what were really quite hostile replies.

 

we know that crafts can indeed Go To the moon. Russia really beat us to that one in style and so then you're tellin me the americns went there a few years later and landed on it and drove a buggy around... americas biggest rival of the time could only crash land there, but america on the cutting edge went there got in orbit and shot back...the question is did they land on it. do you really Nixon gave a shit about the moon? lol..so the question is were the the worlds equipment at the time actually able to track the moon lander actually detatch the 11 and land on the moon and actally see the little white men hoppin around and get back into the lander and reattatch to the 11? don't think so. why havn't any photographs been taken of the site, wouldn't that make for publicity and pride for the american people? and wouldn't it stop all these annoyances?

next
it is common knoledge asteroids from earth and the moon collide with each other. it is not too far fetched that you could find a moon stone in your backyard. in fact the moon used to be where the pacific ocean is today
according to Rachael Carson.
next.
so the hair, only it is not a hair, if you know anything about photography you know hairs don't somehow magically become transparent enough as to match the grain of the object EVEN IF THE HAIR IS GREY...
any more well i guess i could just go down the list. but really did you really so easily demolish those claims?
the thing to remember is just keep coverin up your eyes at the light of evidence that will never go away, because it HASN"T BEEN DISPROVEN no matter how many times you like to say so...be it spite or malice or not it will simply not go away...
and besides amercians have the right and motive to be pissed off at the govt it's never told the truth before why strat now?
and if anything it isn't so bad because it opens peoples eyes to this kind of thought, which if they ever are going to become in the know, they need to think like that.

 

^^^^^^^^^^

he he, i am laughing so hard. Looks like its still going.

*americans *

 

I dont understand this conspiracy theory. Everyone saw the astronauts walk onto the spacecraft then they saw it take off. Astronomers the world over are capable of tracking its progress to the moons orbit complete with astronauts. The radar is more than capable of tracking the lander to the surface, and the radio transmission can be triangulated to the surface anyway. Though granted they could have put a tape recorder onto the lander.

So to recap sometime soon after launch the astronauts bail out of the spacecraft to be collected and taken to the film set. While the space craft is piloted to the moon by remote control. After the Eagle lands with the space recorder to transmit the messages (or I guess it could be relayed, im not certain of how developed radio cryptography was back then) the rocket returns to Earth. Somewhere in orbit it will rendevous with the astronauts who have been returned to space to they can come back on the craft they left in.

Of course if they did all this then I ask 1 question. Why not just go to the moon the proper way as it seems a hell of a lot easier? As for the photos some do seem a little wierd dont they, I wouldnt be to suprised if some were forged but of course this wouldnt be the first time that the public perception of something has been more important than the things itself.

Also a quick point about geology. You wont find anything similar to the moons surface in your back garden (unless your garden is on the moon). Even if the earth and the moon did collide it was billions of years ago since when both bodies have had a very different experience. The Earth is geologically active with much of the crust sedimentary in nautre, if any of the moon is like this then we are not alone. The Earths rock has been cycled through the crust many times since then, weathered by water, compressed by heat and created by living things. None of this has happened on the moon like this which is a cratered version of what it was billions of years ago. About the only similarity will be that it is made of atoms, and probably similar proportions of each. So in many ways telling moon rock from Earth rock would be like going to a zoo and playing spot the difference between the Elephants and the Crocodiles, a terrible metaphor but i wanted to get the point accross.

 

Congratulations! You are already ahead of most of the "moon hoax" crowd, who won't even admit that much...

Yep.

The decisive factor was the booster, not the spacecraft itself. The soviets had a well developed lunar spacecraft, including a landing module. But their heavy-lift booster, the N1, blew up repeatedly in testing, while the US pulled ahead because of the daring concept of "All-Up Testing" and the successful deployment of the Saturn I/V rockets.

And according to all available scientific evidence, (and good old common sense) the answer is YES.

Nope. In fact it was Nixon who KILLED THE APOLLO PROGRAM by cancelling missions 18-20. And if the landing had taken place before he took office, it probably would have been killed sooner. By the time he was elected, most of the money had already been spent, and enough hardware had been built for several landing missions. So the program was allowed to proceed long enough to "Beat the Commies" (who were already out of the race), use up the hardware that was already bought and paid for, and make sure that that scumbag is the only US president with his name on the moon. No mention of Kennedy or LBJ, who actually DID SOMETHING to get there...

To see the astronauts walking around? Sorry, no camera or telescope is that good. But the spacecraft itself was able to be tracked visually with relative ease. There are amateur photographs of the debris cloud surrounding Apollo 13, for example.

Because a camera with the optical resolution to pick out a tiny object like a LM descent stage or a rover from 250,000 miles away simply doesn't exist. There are some photos of the Apollo 15 landing site which show evidence of a disturbance consistent with a landing and use of the rover, though:

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/missions/apollo15_touchdown_photos_010427.html

But lunar material that was brought back from the moon shows DISTINCTIVE FEATURES that are simply not present in asteroids found on earth. Even asteroids that are of lunar origin show the distinct effects of re-entry into our atmosphere and weathering by water and wind here on earth. Whereas the lunar samples may have the same chemical composition, they show no weathering or other evidence of being anywhere other than in a vacuum bombarded by micrometeoroids.

So how do you explain the fact that the originally-released copy of the infamous "C-Rock photo" (AS16-107-17446) shows nothing, with the supposed "prop marking" only showing up several years later, and only on one batch of prints? Sure sounds like a hair on the enlarger lens or negative to me....

http://www.lunaranomalies.com/c-rock.htm

FWIW, the hair looks black to me. If it were grey, you wouldn't see it against the rock, right?

Yeah, this crap will never go away, kinda like a bad case of herpes..

You are absolutely right. People need to call the government out for all the covert shit that they have done over the years, and there has certainly been enough of it, from MK-Ultra through COINTELPRO to the Contra/Cocaine stuff and beyond.

And if the people doing the complaining would stop associating themselves with obviously crackpot crap like the moon hoax, the credibility of their observations would go way up....