Unlocking 'Y.H.W.H' + ''Jehovah'' code! The puzzle of their meaning and reality!

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  1. BlackBillBlake

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    Chairman Mao Zedong, revolutionary leader of the Chinese People's Republic. I used this only as an example.
     
  2. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Briefly:
    the Arab pagans had idols (Goddess) with these names Al-Uzza, Al-lat=(Allat), Manat, they were worshiping Allah at the same time, for example the Christians believe in God the father, but they considered Jesus and the Holy Spirit (angel Gabriel) as Gods too!!!!
    Allah revealed to Muhammad PBUH to tell those pagan Arab that he is only one god and that he has not daughters as they claimed…
    Allah stated in Quraan:
    Have you then considered Allat and Al-Uzza.
    And Manat, the other third?
    Is it for you the males and for Him (Allah) the females...they are but names which you have named-you and your fathers- for which Allah has not sent down for them any authority. They follow but a conjecture and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord.
    Prophet Mohammad PBUH stated: whoever takes an oath in which he (forgetfully) mentions Lat and Uzza should say: La ilaha illallah (there is no deity but Allah- none has the right to be worshipped but Allah)
    Quraan: yet they have taken besides him other gods who created nothing but are themselves created, and possess neither harm nor benefit for themselves, and possess no power (of causing) death, nor (of giving) life, nor of raising the dead.
    Etc etc

    Muhammad's father wasn't pagan according to some of the Islamic sects like the Shia Muslims, his name was Abdullah = Abd Allah / Abd = slave, i.e. the slave of Allah. To know more about the meaning of ''slave of Allah'' read posts 137 139
    YoursSincerely,
    CatStevens
     
  3. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Black Bill Blake


    I wanted to know their meaning because maybe they are same in meaning only with different words, i.e. synonyms. So it might not be the same in pronouncing it, like when I say my friend is Mohd = my mate is Mohd, they are synonyms but I don't pronounce them in the same way. However, forget it.
    YoursSincerely,
    CatStevens
     
  4. Erasmus70

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    Mmm no.
    Christians have always been fiercely Monotheistic and there was no 'additional' Gods but only one God.
    Once again, Muslims just cant get past the 'Trinity' nature of God - thanks to Muhammed who was confused about the whole issue.
    God revealed His ONE true inseparable, undividable nature to us through 'three persons' and I think the confusion is because language limits us to using the word 'Persons'.
    Muhammed clearly did not understand this or else was speaking about some other offshoot of CHristianity that has disappeared since his times?
     
  5. catstevens

    catstevens Muslim Top To Toe

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    Christians perceive this one God to include:
    God the father- God the Son- God the Holy Spirit.
    They are saying that God is one, while they are referring to three Gods!! However, what are their proofs ,that Jesus PBUH and the Holy Spirit PBUH are gods! However, this isn't our topic and if you want to discuss it with me please do it here is God 1 or 3?

    Allah (God the father as Christians call him) told him about this issue, he knew the truth =) peace and blessing of Allah be upon my beloved prophet.
    Quraan: Therefore, remind, by the grace of Allah, you are neither a soothsayer, nor a madman.
    Quraan: And set not up ( or worship not ) any other (god) along with Allah, verily, I am a clear Warner to you from him, Likewise, no messenger came to those before them but they said: A sorcerer or a madman.
    Matthew 5: 11-12: Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    Again: you should prove this, but not here, and if it is inseparable and undividable nature how does it exist in three persons! Do you mean that it is undividable nature morally (immaterially) in its nature but dividable physically because his nature exists in three separated persons or figures? However discuss it there if you want to Is God 1 or 3?
    YoursSincerely,
    CatStevens
     
  6. Erasmus70

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    All three 'offices' or 'revelations to mankind' or (sorry to use this word but) 'persons' are all essentially God.
    Meaning that literally: They are all the same Essense.
    Its unfortunate that we are limited by human dimensions to only have the term 'Three Persons' of God because its not meant to refer to 'People' in the sense of separated beings.
    I will go to your thread and demonstrate why this is possible and how this is possible and is not even worth being confused about.
    I will do it with one picture and sentence and then I ask you to please reply with questions or comments if you can.
    (going to this thread now).....
     
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    OP...mail me some of whatever kind of bud you're smoking, plz. you have GOT to be high to seriously spend that much effort on NOTHING, which is what you did.
     
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    The same essence in respect of what? Because they aren't equal, right.

    I am going to there too, so I will copy what I've written above there again, see ya.
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     
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    Are you talking to me? , if so, then, no dear you are totally wrong, I know very well what I am doing, and maybe someday you will know as well =)
    Best wishes
    Yours Sincerely,
    Cat Stevens
     

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