Domestic Violence

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by GreenBird, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. hippypaul

    hippypaul Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    You just do not live in a redneck enough area. Many of the women around here work in the trailer factory or on the police force. You do not want to fool around with a down-home southern country girl.
     
  2. white ginger

    white ginger Senior Member

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    Mhm, okay.
     
  3. ryupower

    ryupower NO capcom included

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    I find that disgusting.
    Sure, being a gentleman and all in romance is fine, but I mean, OK, If I ask you on a date to the movies, I'll pay the popcorn...I'll give my guy a rose too...
    And I didn't know the thing in the US millitary, that's just plain stupid...I mean, just because some guys were trying to take care of the society-called " weaker vessle " and be a hero, women aren't aloud in combat? That I disagree with alot...doesn't it actually defy the 'equal rights' amendment? Why not exempt the guys from combat then? It's their fault...or just put men and women in different troops? I think that's the fairest deal.

    I suppose the whole "women's body more precious" would be gone if some people would just take a stand and...defy society...

    I may sound a bit nit-picky and grouchy here, but if you disagree, please let me know. I don't want to *somehow* offend someone here..
    Other than that...I learned something new today...:eek:
     
  4. Echo the Small

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    I guess the resoning is that if "the enemy" catches a male soldier will pretty much get killed on the spot or taken as a POW.
    Now think about what would happen to a women soldier caught by the other side. I'd be gusseing some civillised activities such as repeated gang rape and the like.
    Male soldiers know this, and I cant blame them for wanting to save female soldiers from this fate. Not because women are weak in body, but because there are some fates worse than death. (not that these never happen to men, and I'm sure soldiers would risk their lives to save a man from this also.)
    I know if I had to choose between dying and being captured as a female soldier and experiencing things not even animals would do to females, I would welcome my next incarnation.
    Now I'm not saying that women should have no part in combat, it is just simply the better part of human nature to risk one's life, to save another from horrors unimaginable.
     
  5. pansy

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  6. astrobreaux

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    in louisiana a woman can beat a sleeping man into a coma, if he comes out of the coma, he will have his restraining order on his clipboard and be chained to the bed, here all men are "abusers" they just don't know it yet. my first hand experience- now ex-wife #3- 2months after we were married, i walk into the kitchen one morning, wifey is chopping with the fire full blast under the skillet, smoke everywhere, so i tell her that the skillet is about to catch fire, thinking she might have not noticed. she goes off waving the knife in her hand and saying crap about not telling her what to do and that if i didn't like it i could leave cuz she owned half. i informed her that just cuz she married me, that she didn't own half automatically and told her to put the knife down and pack her stuff and turned to walk away. i made 2 steps when i was hit with the cast iron skillet in the small of the back, not good since i have major back damage and am disabled. my head hadn't bounced the second time off the floor and she was on top of me trying to stab me, lucky for me she didn't know how to use a knife. i got her off without hitting her and took the knife and threw it across the room and left. i tried to report it to the police i was told i would be the one getting the charges if i filed a complaint. 3 days later i was kicked out my own house that was bought and paid for years before i knew her, had my car and motorcycle taken away, forced to pay all the bills til it went to court for a restraining order she was able to file. in the end i got my house, car (destroyed due to her renting it out), my motorcycle with bent handle bars, broken controls and a busted gas tank and a mutual restraining order. she violated the restraining order so i filed a complaint, judge attempted to make me the bad guy for filing charges, gave her a warning and told me he didn't want to see me a a 3rd time or i would face 60 days in jail. in the last 3 years we've been divorced she's been picked up for disturbing the peace by fighting(4 times i know of), assault , assault with a deadly weapon (twice), brandishing a firearm, drug charges (3 times), theft charges, burglary (her own father's house),credit fraud(3 pages of creditors!!!!). i found out last week that she recently moved back into the neighborhood and is living within 200 yards of me, gee thanks louzeeana guvmint, once again you've shown the world how backwards you are.
     
  7. white ginger

    white ginger Senior Member

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    astrobeaux~

    If what you say happened, I .. don't really have much to say. I want to express my sympathy, and also that I hope you find someone who you can trust so you can have someone to talk about this experience with. I'm at a loss for words, so please receive the hug and love I'm sending.

    By the way.. abbeville, LA?
     
  8. Maggie Sugar

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    Really? Then why did more men escape the World Trade Center than womyn did? Why were there more first class men who got off the Titanic than third class children OR womyn? Why did more men survive the sunami in Southeast Asia?

    No, in evacuations, those with more physical strength survive. (ie men) Womyn and children die.
     
  9. astrobreaux

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    can't say i've had any trust issues from it, i understand she's sick and needs help, i actually hope she gets some help someday. there is a light ahead for me as of late, seems a totally awesome hippie Goddess about 500 miles away hit me up about 6 months ago. if all goes well i should be going pick her up in a few weeks. woo hoo!
     
  10. astrobreaux

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    thanks for the loving hugs sister! also abbeville is about 20 miles south of lafayette, La
     
  11. white ginger

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    I'm so glad you've found a hippie goddess :)
     
  12. fulmah

    fulmah Chaser of Muses

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    Wow, the Men's Issues forum made it to the front... good stuff! Anyways...

    I don't think anyone's actually tackled the original post, which is asking about domestic violence where men are the victims. In my opinion, this is a critically misunderstood issue, as domestic violence against men is almost as prevalent as domestic violence against women. Anyone who wants to argue it has to take on 175 scholarly investigations conducted over the last 25 years featuring a population of over 168,000; as well as the Department of Justice, which in it's 1998 National Violence Against Women Survey found that 1.5 million women and 800,000 men are assaulted by their partner every year.

    http://www.csulb.edu/~mfiebert/assault.htm
    http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/factsheets/ipvfacts.htm

    The way we treat domestic violence does not recognize these facts. If you're a male in an abusive relationship, you're generally going to be greeted with silence if you contact a domestic violence hotline, as just about every country has adopted the Duluth model. The Duluth model teaches that all men are socially conditioned to oppress and control women. This is flawed, and studies conducted to determine it's effectiveness generally reveal that it's no more effective at preventing future assaults than if no treatment was done. In fact, some studies have concluded that the Duluth model actually reinforces the behavior. Oh, and it doesn't take (just to name a few) substance abuse, alcohol abuse, employment status, economic status, and mental disorders into account. Luckily, in my state, the Duluth model was contested by a couple of law firms in Raleigh, and now experienced professionals are no longer being told whom they can counsel, how they can counsel, and when and where they can counsel by crap regulations developed by people who had no expertise in counseling.
     

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