Marijuana and intelligence levels

Ok, so now that i am hiiiiigggghhh, i belive that marijuana hightens your senses.... you are more aware of things that or happening, and you hear a lot of things that make you wouldnt normally think about... wqhich a lot of times makes you paranoid. Its also quite hard to type out paragraphs without stopping every few minutes to think about what youre typing. As far as being more intellegent, right now i think i am a friggin' genius, but you can decide that for yourselves upon reading this paragraph.

 

when i smoke i get dumb. I mean I cant even speak english properly (my first language is spanish i live in england)...it sucks!
I dont smoke anymore and my brain seems to have regenerated new cells and I seem to have better memory now...oh well, i dont blame pot though

 

A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?
Yeah well when I toke up like I don't do so much so I'm just like that owl except I don't have wings because I'd look stoopid with two little wings and couldn't fly n stuff and wouldn't be able to type so well...like I'd be hitting the keyboard with my feathers and it would all come out ejifjre';qe;';';,ler;;,a.........but I suppose I could peck the board?

I can't believe I'm a system analyst with IBM either.

 

when i started smoking pot my grades took a small dip, but not much. i wouldnt say im burnt out though. i got an 85 on my history final, when the majority of people got scores in the 50s 60s and 70s. i also aced or at least did well on my other exams(sept math, i suck at math). but in my quarterly grades i get c's & d's and occasionaly a b or f. and in 8th grade and before i failed almost all my classes. so smoking weed has neither made me smarter or stupider

 

IMO the fried smokers just suffer from amotivational syndrome and since pot enhances amotivation these people become lazier and dont apply themselves. A lot of this also has to do with brain chemistry for example I have a friend who suffers from pretty severe chemical depression and since his "cocktail" of pharmaceuticals are currently not working he becomes very amotivated to do ANYTHING besides smoke pot and sometimes he's even too amotivated to pack a bowl. But that is just how his brain reacts to the chemicals. Personally I don't feel any drug will make you smarter, sure marijuana and other stronger psychoactive chemicals will make you think a lot, but in reality its your brain finding answers to questions you asked yourself, and its not the chemical that finds the answer.

 

I have noticed that smoking pot heightens the senses but delays the ability to respond to your environment in varying degrees.

As for pot killing brain cells, that is a myth perpetuated by outdated science. Drugs disrupt the flow of neurotransmitters in the brain and thereby change the way the brain interprets the senses. This creates the high that we all seek. Getting high is NOT the result of killing off a billion brain cells (which WOULD make you dumb and even disabled at some point.) I would say that Ozzy did a lot of very hard drugs for extended periods of time and thereby DID kill brain cells. The brain needs exercise much like the rest of the body if it is to stay fit and healthy. The body is very efficient machine and will not waste valuable resources and energy on developing neurotransmitters if they are being provided by an outside source (drugs). By using such vast amounts of mind altering drugs, Ozzy's brain adapted to its new environment wherein drugs served as neurotransmitters and the brain ceased to produce its own (Seratonin, etc). By the time Ozzy stopped doing the drugs his brain had already stopped production of important chemicals and is now lacking the ability to function properly.

Long term, daily smoking will eventually effect your brain's ability to maintain itself without the help of drugs. As much as I enoy smoking pot, it is important to take a few days off or even a week sometimnes so the brain will realize that it needs to keep producing its own chemicals.

That is my theory (some of it substantiated by science) on what has happened to Ozzy and Tommy Chong (ever notice how slurred his speech is?)

Now that all of that is said......Someone pass me the joint!

 

so ive given it some more thought and i've decided. you can smoke up everyday and i dont think it will affect your intelligence. this is only true if you keep your mind active, stimulated and open to learning and your priorities in order. having said that let us now look at the details.

firstly, i have thought some pretty crazy thoughts and come up with some theories. i have no idea if they are sensible. one of them was that when you are high, your brain is obviously working slower which MEANS you are able to grasp those thoughts that normally go by so fast in your brain that YOU dont have time to even think about it. are u with me?? so in effect, that's the IRONY of being high. you become a stupid (cuz yur slow) genius and sadly it is hard to put those words down intelligently. but in the process you gain alot of insight. and if you are AWARE enough then you make up for the slight loss of brain cells by subsituting them with at least a sense of gained knowledge. now see some people would just say that sounds like bunch of smartly written bullshit. alot like dr. phil....

anyway! one thing is for sure, i've become a tad more imaginative even when i''m not high just because the doors have been unlocked. see ?
my writing skills have definately improved. though i can't be the judge of that actually because i've always been somewhat of a "writer". maybe i just bullshit too much. or maybe thats the dope talking.

the downside of pot? i've become more complex. but then again i always thought that way. i think pot makes u indecisive too. but i'm going off track. ok fuck that.

i'm trying to remember what i wanted to add to this thread. THAT's the problem. short term memory. there have been times when i'd be wathcin tv high with someone, the commercials would come and we'd change the channel and then literally one minute later we'd go..."what were we watching?". it'd take some time to remember. lol

what the fuck did i wanna add man!? i'm gonna have to come back to this one. all i said above wasn't even the POINT! interesting..... i think i just proved my theory! in a stupid kind of way.

 

yes. some may say that ANYONE who smokes dope is STUPID. afterall, u'd have to be pretty damn idiotic to take in so many cancer causing carcinogens (how poetic) just to feel light headed, goofy easier to laff n so on. when u can feel that way (to an extent) when ur sober.
what's the stoner response? life is too short. to alot of people we are the biggest fools u know?i hate that!




i wonder if atheism and stonerism go hand in hand... i think it does more times than not.....

 

There's a massive part of our brain that we can not use (maybe we can rent it to Bush?). As far as I know we use only the 5% of our brain
(Bush uses 2% of Cheney's).
I can spoil the rest of my brain cells with alcohol and marijuana since the experience I gain from them would be some sort of an investment to the part that I use (nr. of brain cells)

 

MAES!!! u wonderfully smart person i'm so glad u said that~!!! yeah mannnnnnnn we use less than 10 % of our brains ANNNNNDDD *I* think that smoking up, if u like u know channel ur brain waves properly can make u use even more.
some people are born that wat like uri gellar n all but u can open it up too and do cool shit! cuz dope is like meditation in a way. wooohoo!
now its all complete i think?

 

perhaps i should mop this ignorance up...

let me begin by saying that you both are entirely misinformed in regards to how our brains work. allow me to shed some light on the "10%-myth."

some of us are aware that the brain is composed of billions upon billions of cells ranging from neurons to astrocytes to glial cells and MANY MANY others. what most people do not know is that our brain is only about 10% neurons. the other 90% is occupied by the aforementioned glial cells and astrocytes and other similar cells. basically, the ultimate goal of this 90% portion of our brain is to protect and serve the 10% - being the actual neurons. let me introduce a hypothetical situation (this hypothetical situation is my own thinking and may or may not be reality): if we had nothing but neurons (let's say 100% of the brain was neurons) then we would have big big problems. first off, the neurons would be much slower because there would be no myelin-producing support cells that increase action potentials by leaps and bounds. secondly, dead nuerons would crowd the area and, i imagine, would lead to brain damage and who knows what all else; neurogenesis would definitely be out of the picture! thirdly, i suspect that with 10x as many neurons, we would all be suffering horribly from seizures caused by overactive brains. in other words, i believe nature created us the way we are for a reason; intelligence is a positive evolutionary trait, but it has a limit in all cases....

as you know, neurons are our electro-chemical paths for human functioning, including intelligence. neurons are so important that the majority of the brain is designated the task of padding their neural axons, enhancing the nuerons themselves, and cleaning up dead neurons and other brain debris.

the reason we only use roughly 10% (plus or minus a few percent) of our brains is because that is ALL THE NEURONS we have. the other 90% is UNUSABLE because they are support cells and have no ability to create action potentials (APs are the basis of our existence).

when you use drugs such as alcohol, you are killing brain cells both within the 10% and also those within the 90%. but considering that only several billion of all our billions of brain cells have something to do with intelligence, we can do drugs without immediately noticing the side effects.

the point of this post is to clear up this circulating myth. i should also add that we could not get more intelligent, as a species, by just deciding-to-use-more-of-our-brain; it doesn't work that way. additionally, intelligent people don't necessarily have more neurons, rather they have more CONNECTIONS between their neural networks, allowing them greater mental speed and access to more information (assuming they spent the time learning that information rather than sitting in front of a TV). president bush probably uses all 10% of the brain cells he can possibly use. i suspect the difference between him and intellectuals is that bush has fewer intercellular connections. i suppose it also depends on whatever he spent his time doing while his brain was creating those valuable connections....

this is grounded neuroscience, folks....

peace, and remember that you are using all of your brain all the time!

 

wow. i wasn't aware of that. that's rather interesting. perhaps you could tell me where to find more of this kind of information so that i am not misleading myself. well, at least we know one thing, all you gotta do is believe!
surely you do not discard the fact that there is a huge difference b/w someone who is learned and someone who is intelligent. i'm not talking IQs here btw.
and you must also acknowledge the fact that there is still much about the brain to be learned and that you could be wrong as well... because i am certain some people use more brain "power" than others. how do you explain remote viewing, telekinesis and other such phenomena? are you a skeptic? i was...but things have happened to challenge my once very realist beliefs.

 

i often feel semi-braindead when i'm stoned, but there are also times ican't help myself from spouting forth the most intelligent sounding stings of words i can see myself saying. and i get good grades. the only think that effects my intelligence with weed is the laziness it causes. but careful timing takes care of that little nuisance.

 

ok. cool. no, i'm not a skeptic. telekinesis is real. learned and intelligence are also different. that is real - i understand and agree entirely.
as far as the 10% myth, i am correct.... when i said that comes from well-grounded neuroscience, i mean it; that means that we have dissected brains enough to understand their composition. telekinesis is entirely different. i don't believe telekinesis has anything to do with brain cells - telekinesis is beyond that, prehaps in the spiritual realm, i dunno.
well, peace out.

 

yeah practically speaking i guess ur right. spiritual yeah perhaps, i believe it's bit more scientific than that.... i think we under estimate the power of our electromagnetic brain waves. the brain fascinates me and simple dissection tells us very little. dont u think?

 

A real genious could open their mind without the use of a drug.

 

I think that some areas in the brain are stimulated when you're stoned so you'll see ,feel and think quite differently.Wouldn'say that it makes you smart or dumb,it just changes the view on the things because you have a completely different perception.In fact you sometimes have a lot more creative energy when you're fried (i get aware of that everytime I play guitar after smoking),the problem is that you forget all these genious thoughts very soon,because you have too much input and can hardly focus one thing.It's even more a problem after taking halcyons.Your cerebral reduction filter is disabled and you'll get all the information at once.Crazy!

 

Depends on who you are. It brings out the real person maybe? Since we are all different (in some aspects), maybe it brings out that one factor that makes you different. Then again everyone has to eat... munchies

 

what the fuck are halcyons?

 

Halcyons are psychedelic drugs which cause hallucianations,like LSD,shrooms,mescal.But don't know if halcyon is the right word.English is not my native language.In German it's called Halluzinogen.Just thought that halcyon sounded good and not too wrong