well i decided to try out this using the shower head thing to see if it would work, so i ran a bath and thought hang on, some have said that its good to get yourself under the taps and let the water do the business, so i got in and scooted my bum under it i had got the water at the right temperature beforehand! well i nearly bloody drowned my self!!!! i slide so far down with my legs up in the air and couldnt get them on to anything to push me back, i couldnt get my hands to grip anything as the soap was on the sides of the bath! i just managed to get the plug out and had to wait for it to drain while struggling to keep my head above water!!!! so undetered i thought oh well i ll have a go with the shower and although it got some nice feelings going on after about an hour i gave up! so all i can say is its far safer and more reliable to use the vib, i dont ever want to get in the position i was in and have to shout for help like that!!!!