Shrooms: Take Two

they were probably dried with heat, which could potentially make them very, very weak. most tryptamines (including psilocin and psilocybin) are rather sensitive to temperatures, and high heat used in poor drying methods could very significantly reduce their potency.

another good possibility is that they are entirely fake, most likely some sort of exotic culinary mushroom thats been dried out.

i've recently found out it may be possible that caps DO have more concentrated alkaloids in them, being up to 30% stronger. however the stems still have plenty of active alkaloids in them and make up the bulk of the yield, so its senseless to regard them as inferior to caps unless you're growing your own. even then you should have no problem with using stems. i had believed the statement that the mushroom is generally of a consistant potency regardless of which part you're discussing. however i recently found a document at the shroomery which would imply that they can be up to 30% stronger, which would not mean all the time and the difference would usually be quite negligible, especially considering that every trip is different from time to time regardless of dosage, and it's hard to judge the "strength" from one trip to the previous.

shroomery document
the original paper

$45 for an eighth is highway robbery. you should NEVER pay more than 30, but personally i wont go above 25, and even that would be desperate.

i used to grow my own mushrooms (its quite simple, actually) for personal use, and my experiences have led me to severely dislike mushroom commerce. there is absolutely no reason to charge more than 10-15 dollars per eighth, but people are greedy bastards and if they can command a higher price they will. i've heard of people being absolutely fleeced and paying up to 60 dollars for an eighth. it costs virtually nothing to grow mushrooms compared to pot, they are fast growing, they're compact (meaning you can grow a lot in a small amount of space) and they are far harder to get caught growing than marijuana as they don't require special lighting and gardening supplies and don't generate a strong suspicious odor. basically there's not enough risk involved to justify charging the same amount per weight of mushrooms as you'd pay for cannabis.

so go to a different dealer, and hopefully you'll get some better/real mushrooms, and hopefully you'll also get a better price. the guy you got yours from is obviously taking a lot of your money without you getting much of anything back.

a few words of advice though:
taking certain medications such as selective seratonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs, such as prozac, zoloft, paxil) can very often decrease or eliminate the effects of certain drugs that affect your seratonin levels. most complaints regard no longer being able to feel ecstacy, or needing to take a lot more rolls than normal to get to the same level. many people will also notice similar decreases or eliminations in the effects of mushrooms, LSD, and so on.

if you are on an SSRI medication, you should not be taking psychedelics. first, while some people don't experience the decrease of effects, the simple fact that you are on psychiatric medication makes it a bad idea to be tripping or rolling. psychedelics (and to a lesser extent empathogens) should not be used by people with any form of mental distress, impairment, illness or unease, unless it's in a therapeutic session run by a doctor (very unlikely, most psychedelic therapists are underground these days)

furthermore it takes a good while after cessation of the medication before your seratonin levels are no longer being effected by the SSRI. the effects of quitting it cold turkey are severely unpleasant, you need to ween off of it, and then it takes a while to stop having any effect on you. so its entirely impractical and inappropriate to quit taking the medication just so you can trip.

also, if you have the space and security to do so, you can learn to grow your own mushrooms at home rather easily. there are plenty of resources on the web.

and the last thing to take into consideration is that though its rare, there are some people who for unknown reasons need much more of any particular drug to feel even mild effects, and some people seem to be entirely immune to certain drugs. this is most likely not the case, but it is not entirely unheard of.

 

Thats fucked up i have known people that didnt trip off crazzzy ass mushrooms. Do you no anyone else that ate them and tripped? if not than there probably like just some kind of non-halucinogenic shroooomzzzzz...

 

My friends took the the exact same kind of shrooms and tripped balls. And I take Paxil, Abilify, and Adderall so that may have something to do with me not tripping. I'm thinking of giving LSD a try.

 

http://www.erowid.org
"SSRIs in Combination with Psychedelics generally reduce the effects of the psychedelic a bit."


Paxil is an SSRI

 

Fuckin' a.

 

since you're on an SSRI, you may notice a decrease or elimination of effects from LSD, too. same with ecstacy. however, you may still be able to achieve desirable effects from these as well. all hope isn't lost. after all, its not perfectly consistant. when taking an SSRI a friend of mine found she didn't feel the effects of mushrooms at all, but she COULD trip on LSD. so its hit or miss...some people on these drugs may be able to use mushrooms and not acid. it isn't consistant all the time. chances are though you still won't get "your money's worth"

 

some poeple have a naturaly high tolerance for shrooms,, realy isnt fair, too bad you dont see liberty caps much anymore, an eighth of those would be a little over the top

 

i hear that Paxil is a strong SSRI and it's true that some people do have a mysteriously high tolerance to psychedelics.

so like, yea. ...you're 17, you're supposed to be kinda "off".. you don't need that shit. get off it, deal with life like everyone naturally has to and start tripping balls.

erm, i'm drunk, but that's basically my point.

 

Damn, looks like I can only do marijuana, since that is the only drug I can access that is guaranteed to give me effects. But I'll give LSD a try and see if it affects me in any way.

 

well, there are PLENTY of drugs that you can still have "garaunteed" effects from, but not many psychedelics. with most of what you COULD use (pharmaceuticals, cocaine, heroin, etc.) the long term dangers outweigh the illusory benefit.

 

Try sativa..
I also heard the first time someone does shrooms it don't work
but it worked for me the 1st time.. and I only did 2 g's.. and tripped madly

 

I did shrooms twice and they failed twice, even after eating an entire eighth. But that's because I take Paroxetine.

 

well for me 35 g of fresh cubensis (an 1/8 dried) is only a little high. I dunno why but i have a ridiculous tolerance to psilocyn/psilocybin. These same shrooms made my friend trip hard, so i know it's not the mushrooms.

You should try LSD, I've never had a problem tripping off of that although the effects do seem to be shorter lasting on me-about 8Hrs compared to 12 for most of my friends and even 16 for one. And from the people i know that have done both 3 say that LSD is better(more detailed visuals) while 2 (including my mate who had 1 bad trip on shrooms but still loves them) say mushrooms are better (more euphoria).

 

Yeah, I'm thinking of doing LSD but it's not coming around to my parts for a few months.

 

LSD all the way. Add a joint, and you are good to go.

SliceNDice-- Is it possible you were expecting too much? Sometimes mushrooms take a bit to kick in... and people don't realize that. A friend of mine took some mushrooms, but then started DRINKING like an hour and a half later, cause he said "they were bunk!" I think he was just expecting wayyy too much.

 

I did shrooms 7 times, all the times were highly visual and somewhat confusing. First time = for me strongest effect.

For everyone: Do Hawaiians if you really wanna trip.

Nothing beats hawaiians.

 

Maybe I was. It's entirely possible that I was expecting too much.

 

no you would have known if you tripped properly.