10,000 Clergy members endorse evolution

There are tons of dormant genes. Genes that can be activated by a single mutation. These dormant genes slowly accumulate mutations as well. What happens when the trigger mutation activates them? The begining of a new species?

 

I'm not trying to bait you, even though I am a master-baiter. It just seems like in a lot of your posts you hint at stuff or dance around stuff and never just come out and say it straight up. I'm just wondering if post 75 can be clarified so I know what you're arguing.

 

Yes, please clarify your position, Erasmus70, if you would. No offense, of course, but you seem to do an awful lot of criticizing, and the vagueness of your statements doesn't clarify your position very much, if at all.

My apologies. Perhaps you should contact the Calvinists at the link I posted, who are posting that "proof" of Creationism... I'm sure they'd be interested to hear what you have to say, considering that they seem to strive to be one of the best sects at apologetics. Maybe you might let them in on something that might be of use to them.

 

An interesting phenomena can actually ocurr where a virus that has infected a particular organism can pick up one or a part of one of that organisms genes and actually transfer it into the cellular genome of the next organism that it infects. In the case of bacteria scientists have reason to believe that many, if not most, of the genes in a single species were transfered in from another species. In some bacteria whole sets of genes (termed pathogenicity islands) can be transfered in by a number of different mechanisms and cause a completely harmless bacterium to become a human pathogen.


In addition, it is quite easy for even human cells to pick up DNA. On a daily basis in my laboratory I "transform" cultured human liver cells with DNA containing a gene which I cloned. In this process the human cells take up the DNA, treat it as its own, and the gene is now active! The transformation process is actually relatively simple, and even much simpler in the case of bacteria. In that case merely abrupt changes in temperature can cause the bacteria to take up the DNA.

Just some interesting phenomena for you guys to ponder.

As a little reminder, I am a faithful Christian and do not intend to sway an arguement from a creationist standpoint to an evolutionist standpoint. My intent here is to only state facts to ponder. Let your faith be your guide... Even Albert Einstein is quoted as saying "Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind." I am a strong supporter of that idea!

 

I don't understand how or why some people find it so difficult to reconcile Evolution and Genesis. To insist they are incompatible, or that either should be suppressed in favor of the other, seems a wilfully ignorant act of intellectual laziness, if not dishonesty.

Evolution is not a belief system. Evolution is not a threat to the Judeo-Christian tradition. Evolution is certainly not a threat to God. Evolution is the scientific explanation, based on an overwhelming abundance of incontrovertable evidence, painstakingly examined, of the natural process through which species of life forms change to adapt to an ever-changing environment. As a real and tangible form of divine creativity, it is perfectly compatible with any legitimate, scripturally-founded belief about the nature of God.

However . . .

Fundamentalists who wish to voice any concerns about Evolution should cite relevent passages in Genesis that say, exactly, how God creates all of this. Until one does this simple thing, until that day when enlightenment finds you, and you find God, please consider the suggestion to stop insisting the Bible disproves Evolution. It does not.

Peace and Love

 

For the palms of your hands
complimentary

 

im probably the only one who has never understood the hairy palm reference =\

 

Well said!

 

Thank You.

 

Nice Assertion, Varuna!