Zappa

Discussion in 'Classical' started by _chris_, Sep 25, 2005.

  1. _chris_

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    Whilst his classical composition is relitively unknown, im wondering if anyone has heard his stuff, as its really amazing.
     
  2. hippin life

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    i have heard a little bit of it, but the title of it escapes me
     
  3. lovelightlisa

    lovelightlisa Senior Member

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    huh? what? frank zappa? hehe, the black page...oh man...joe's garage, baby snakes, does humor belong in music...
     
  4. Shotgun Willie

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    Yes, Zappa was very much into classical music. He was quite an accomplished composer to. His last album before his death in 1993, The Yellow Shark was a very good classical album.
     
  5. lovelightlisa

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    never heard it...:(
     
  6. Rar1013

    Rar1013 GroovaMama

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    mmm..joes garage....gotta luv zappa
     
  7. Shotgun Willie

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    Well then, I guess you've never heard his work with The Ensemble Modern.
     
  8. hippin life

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    his book, 'The Real Frank Zappa' talks about his classical music, as well as alot of other stuff about him. its a good book if your into zappa
     
  9. ÎÔ»¢²ØÁú

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    The Yellow Shark is a wonderful album... I also liked The Perfect Stranger conducted by pierre boulez
     
  11. db3695

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    joe garage I and II...cathloic girls.....
     
  12. Zajko

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    Frank Zappa's musical career seems to have roughly paralleled the evolution of music over thre course of european history. His early material, like Renaissance or 'Early Music', was a natural outgrowth and response to the culture he found himself in. Then, when he began to develop the potential of music as pure music rather than simply a vehicle for his message, he produced his Baroque masterpieces: Hot Rats, Waka Jawaka and The Grand Wazoo. I like to think of Hot Rats as Zappa's Brandenburg Concertos. His music then entered the Classical phase where elegance gives way to drama, as in his live album, Piquantique. In his later orchestral works with The Ensemble Moderne and with P. Boulez he seemed to be painting or sculpting within his (already well established) musical language in the manner of the Romantic composers.

    If I have a favorite Frank Zappa album it is Burnt Weenie Sandwich. Produced at the culmination of his 'Early Music' phase, it was the penultimate and farewell album of the original permutation of The Mothers of Invention. Burnt Weenie Sandwich and Hot Rats were produced nearly concurrently, are both primarily instrumental, but outside of that are extremely different. If Hot Rats is his Brandenburg Concerto, Burnt Weenie Sandwich has more in common with Eastern European composers such as Bartok, Orff, or even Philip Koutev who stayed close to their folk roots and let their music be the voice of their culture. BWS even has a distinct Balkan/Middle-Eastern flair to it as it showcases the talents of each member of the band.
     
  13. Hip_Priest

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    Ensemble Modern released their own CD of Zappa stuff quite recently - track listing as follows.

    Maggio
    What Will Rumi Do?
    Night School
    Revised Music for Low Budget Orchestra
    The Beltway Bandits
    A Pig With Wings
    The Dental Hygiene Dilemma
    Put A Motor In Yourself
    Peaches En Regalia
    Naval Aviation In Art?
    The Adventures Of Greggery Peccary

    Unlike Yellow Shark, it sounds as though most of the mic'-ing (if not all) is ambiant so it lacks the immidiacy of its Zappa-produced predecessor... but still well worth a listen (if you can find it).

    If you've not heard "Civilisation, Phase III", you should, too.

    Edit - "Maggio" is, in fact "Moggio" (from Man From Utopia) but that's the way they spell it at the Ensemble's site.
     
  14. Duke of Prunes

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    haha nobody mentioned "Francesco Zappa". time has not treated that album well lets just say that.
     
  15. Duke of Prunes

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    haha nobody mentioned "Francesco Zappa". time has not treated that album well lets just say that.
     
  16. rg paddler

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    my personal more classical favourite of zappa is The Uncle Meat Variations - always reminds me of sailing round the world on a galleon - even though the lyrics are 'fuzzy dice and bongos fuzzy dice..'etc the accordian is just beautiful
     
  17. Flight From Ashiya

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    He scored the entire two hour 'Mothers of Invention' concert at The Royal Festival Hall on 30? October 1968 with the BBC Symphony Orchestra.
    I have it on a c.d. called 'Ahead Of Their Time' with the missing bits on 'Weasel's Ripped My Flesh' c.d.
     
  18. mystik_lilac

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    My favorite Zappa album at the moment is Apostrophe. It's such a fun album.

     
  19. Radiation

    Radiation Ruling the Nation

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    No it isn't. :D
     
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