some suggestions, please...

if all goes to plan. im taking 1 tab this coming monday night, alone. in my bedroom. my first trip. planning to drop at 10:30 , will i be sober enough to act relativly normal in front of my parents at 8:00 that morning? i know everyones gonna say i shouldnt do it alone in my room the first time, but im pretty confident. iv smoked shit laced with pcp before. (if that helps). but, im just looking for some suggestions, at what i should do all night. lay in bed with music and just explore existence, or should i walk around the yard, street? (i frequently venture the street at night stoned, if that helps your opinions. i rarely get scared out there) watch t.v , a movie? lie on the floor. also, i aslo plan on taking some meth, about 7:00 in the morning, will this sober me up some? or trip me out more? thanks. just give me your ideas about my plans. ohhh, and im doing it alone. because im looking for a more spirtitual self discovery type of experience.
ohh, and say iffff, i spiralled into a bad trip. do you have any recomendations to turn the trip around, and saaayy iffff, i did have a bad trip, would i still have enough sense not to go to my parents rooom for fear of death? sooo many questionss, thankyou...

 

My suggestion is that you seriously re-think your motives. First of all, asking about dropping while you're still living under your parent's roof tells me you probably shouldn't drop to begin with. Second, why are you going to take meth when you come down? Horrible decision. Do what you love doing while you're dosed, you will just love it more.

 

Yeah, don't fuck around with the meth. Just go with the flow while tripping.

 

you will already look cracked out from lack of sleep and coming down from acid, and you are going to do meth to make you appear sober. if you were trying to put out a fire would you dump gasoline on it??? hahaha jk. my advice for post-trip matinence is smoke some bowls and get some sleep.

 

and drink a nice glass of warm milk, maybe take some ambien or something. good luck, and have fun.

 

i apreciate your opions. but i am deadset on takin it. i have many reasons for it, for spirtitual self gain purposes. and personnally i think meth would finish it off nicely, and happily. but, not just appear sober. will it straiten out my thoughts, or help me act sober, not appear sober, i meant. 2cesarewild, what is your reasoning behind meth being a horrible idea at the end of the trip. is it just you hate meth.?
but most importantly, would i be able to interact with a usuall murmor and nod, in the morning/

 

Meth well keep you from learning, as you say "spiritual self gain purposes"
Meth does the exact opposite of LSD, in fact produces over the long run, schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, dilutions etc... You are not Superman it will catch you sooner then you think.

Mixing LSD and meth just reinforces this kind of thinking. Using LSD after a meth binge is also a very risky thing to do. Meth = devil LSD = GOD

Your reasoning is so off, Your gonna loss yourself on LSD especial if this is your first time! LSD is not like anything you have taken.

If you gonna take it, you should be WELL rested and well feed, in a happy confident mood! If your anything opposite of that; LSD will only amplify your condition and make it worse. Never take LSD if your depressed ether, It will make things worse or can lead you into a freak out.

Plan out your set and setting.
Going out into the streets will get you busted if you start acting loony. LSD can bring you to a point; where you can't even figure out how to work you own stereo etc... Or forget who you are!
Taking meth after LSD will only cancel out every thing you learned during a LSD experience.

Cheese and Rice

 

Yeah, what he said. Stay away from meth! Christ. Don't wait until 10:30 if you need to look cool to your parents. If you feel like you have to do it at home, start out a couple hours earlier. But it's not as much fun to do it by yourself, I've done it and it's boring. But if you must, go out and rent a scary flick you haven't seen before, that should be interesting.

 

a spiritual seeker who does meth? you must be new to that scene....i hate to play this role, but i will anyway. if you continue with meth it will destroy everything you´ve ever loved....your spirit first. i guarantee it. ever met a spiritual gack head before??? they dont exist.

 

That's right. And they're broke, skinny, paranoid, no-toothed leeches who'll steal you blind and narc on you the first time they get busted. Fuck all of 'em.

 

im not a methhead. iv only done it a few times, for studying purposes.Orange Sunshine Vet, "Taking meth after LSD will only cancel out every thing you learned during a LSD experience." how do you know this. from experience, or are you just speaking shit.
"Meth does the exact opposite of LSD, in fact produces over the long run, schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, dilutions ". and what, lsd doesnt?

 

nope

 

A few times "for studying purposes". I take that to mean "experimentation". That's how it starts.

 

Yes sir ^^^

No LSD does not!
As long as you use it in the way, it is meant to be used. Kids usually will abuse it when they first try it sure until the novelty wares off, and some of them may lose them selfs for a while, but they took it in an irresponsible way. Set and setting is a very important rule of thumb to follow if you gonna take Psychedelics.

But Meth; that shit is physically and psychologically addicting! LSD is not physically or psychologically addicting for most, maybe for newbies, you tend to become psychologically addicted to using it but that wares off in most cases.


Meth;
I seen to many friends think and say the same thing "it wont do that to me"
Every one of them ended up hitting bottom, losing there wifes, family ties, jobs, children etc...
Almost everyone of them became somewhat delusional etc...

What happens is over time, because of staying up for days at a time and going through such thought processes, Meth in fact rewired there brains. It takes a long time if at all to relearn how to function "normally" again.

Then again being normal is that group you chose to hang with. like minds think alike. Or how ever you chose to define it.

Hey if you want to take Meth and feel your in control 24/7 , go for it. We who are very much older then you surly don't know what where talking about right! evolution at it best trial and error guess who wins?

Just be careful OK! It's the kind of drug that slowly & subtly changes you. you may not notice it but others do. especially you loved ones
Peace, someone who cares

PS
I bet after you take your one hit of LSD, then take your speck of meth, after the acid trip wares off, just to try and fool the folks, and you do, as always. Your gonna say, those folks at the hip forums don't know what there talking about, Right!

Remember this it slowly will happen and you'll not notices it happening to you. Thats how evolution works, It takes a long time. In this case with heavy meth use it takes about 6 months < > give or take.

Note:
This information isn't necessarily for you " " it for all who eventually stumbles across this tread too. With a well placed head on there shoulders, to chose listen to those with experience and wisdom!

 

I would be so grateful to have some LSD, I can not wait to experience it but I know the time will come just like it did when I was waiting to try shrooms. But honestly why ruin the glory of a first time LSD experience by doing Meth right after. It is your choice if you like meth or whatever but in my opinion I'd save it for another time and enjoy the wonderful experience of LSD.

 

hmm, i hear you. meth is very bad. not somthing i whant to get 'caught up in'. i agree with everything you say 'Orange Sunshine Vet'. youve definatly actually made me realise, or rethink my future "meth for study plans". thanks
i guess its like you get stuck in a trance and until someone lays it out on the line how it really is, that you actually go, "oh shit".
ok, but still i dont think ill be able to pull an all nighter with no meth. perhaps ill try to put it off until later in the day. i havent done meth in weeks. im only doing it "that day" because otherwise id be too exhausted to function.
also, would lsd interfer with my studying much...

 

lsd is a stimulant on its own. you will not be tired. i have stayed up all night on lsd twice, and the stimulant effects carried over into the next day. if you do get tired, just drink a cup of coffee.

 

exept im allergic to caffeine. it makes me delusional and what not.

 

and meth doesnt?? just kidding i have no problem with you doing meth. i just dont want you to get caught, because i end up looking and acting cracked out on my come downs. i'd hate to see how someone would act with meth added into the mix. but if you can handle yourself while tweaking then there is no problem.

 

I'm an old hippie, like Orange Sunshine Vet (with 60's/70's real life experiences) and I'll verify his postings, on this thread, as being true. But I have the following to add:

Methamphetamine was invented by the NAZI's, and used extensively by them, during WWII. It made them: cold, cruel, unemotional, calculating and sadistic! You are what you eat! FEED YOUR HEAD! Methamphetamine can make you feel "euphoric" and "happy", but more negative effects come later.

I saw a Montel Williams TV show about methamphetamine users/abusers, and this one teenage girl talked with a slur, because of the brain damage that she suffered from heavy, long-time METH abuse. Not cool!

After pot and acid left the Haight-Ashbury hippies/60's scene, "speed freaks" took over. The remaining hippies then came up with the popular slogan: SPEED KILLS! They had a poster with a skull and two hypodermic needles underneath, forming a "skull and crossbones" design, with the words: SPEED KILLS! at the bottom.

There was a 1970 movie entitled; THE PEOPLE NEXT DOOR (Starring: Deborah Winters, Stephen McHattie, Hal Holbrook and Cloris Leachman), which was a GO ASK ALICE-type of movie, although fictional. Deborah Winters played the main character MAXIE, who did LSD, STP, speed and cocaine. Near the beginnig of the movie, she had an LSD "freak out". Later, when she came down, and her parents knew she did drugs, she stated: "I shouldn't have taken speed with my acid." Speed (amphetamines, mainly) POTENTIATES with LSD, which makes the "speedy" effects much stronger, which can lead to amplified "fragmented thoughts". Possible bad trip, man!

Most trippers take some kind of sedative, or downer at the end of their trip (if needed). Beer, pot or sleeping tablets. I've never really heard about taking speed at the end of an acid trip, but it's probably been done. On powerful acid, an extremely "speedy" ending can happen and taking some more speed would probably cause a "freak out".

I never did METH, but I did try regular AMPHETAMINE (white-cross tablets) in the early 70's. I took only 1/4, 1/2 or 1 tablets to counteract the after effects of pot (the next day). I didn't use them for a "high", like many do, or I would've taken much higher doses. I stopped after a few weeks (or month), because I didn't want to have a speed habit.

If you do a YAHOO search on "Spiders On LSD", you'll see a scientific study that was done with spiders, who were given various drugs to get high on, and see what kind of webs they spun. The LSD spiders actually produced a more efficient web (an improvement)! The caffeine spiders produced a real chaotic mess of a web. Totally opposite!
LINKS: www.cannabis.net/weblife.html NETS MADE BY SPIDERS FED ON DRUG DOSED FLIES
www.psymon.com/psychedelia/images/spiders.html Spiders On LSD

In some LSD experiments, LSD raised the I.Q. levels (in the test subjects) by 15 points! Albert Hofmann (the discoverer of LSD) stated that LSD caused NO TISSUE DAMAGE! Mr. Hofmann has done LSD-25 many times, plus being the world's first LSD-25 tripper and he just turned 100 years old (on: January, 11, 2006)! Timothy Leary lived to be 75 years old and died from prostrate cancer (not LSD related). Pretty full lifespans, I'd say!

LSD can expand the mind, while SPEED fragments!

It's best to trip on acid in a totally relaxed and "stress free" environment with friends. An experienced ACID GUIDE would also be nice, for a first time, anyway. They can help you through any difficulties, if any. Acid amplifies what's in your head and heart, so think positive thoughts, relax and GO WITH THE FLOW! You'll experience things that you've NEVER experienced in your ENTIRE life before! Or things that seem impossible to experience! So be prepared. Look upon these experiences as new, exciting and cool! Embrace the unknown, don't fear it!



Peace out. Trip out.