Why is it ok to be gay?

opinion manipulators always try to sound like innocent good guys. well the only one who can ever really KNOW you intentions is yourself.

thing is, politicians, people who would dictate the perceptions of others, manipulate perceptions in such as way as to create animosities to devide and concor their opposition. this, and not some mythological 'human' antithisis to superficial differences, is the real origen of every prejudice, bias, and chauvanism there has ever been or will be.

they have been doing this since long before such a concept as a political mandate was ever even immagined.

it appauls as well as amazes me, when i see people not waking up and realizing this.

i appologise for broadening the topic, but i really feel this directly applies.

of course a couple of you have already said this better, but i felt this aspect of it needed to be pointed to specificly, just in case there was anybody out there anywhere who sees this, who isn't already 'GETTING' it.

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"Homo's pass on AIDs more than anyone then the bi-sexual ones have sex with women then it gets passed on to us. That's a good reason to be against homosexuals."

Anaconda Man

Lesbians have the lowest rate of HIV transmission out of any sexual group, and unsafe sex is in no ways limited to any group of people. However, gays are more likely not to use a condom. Why? Cause they aren't going to concieve!


"And how about the gay priest who is also a pedofile who hawks on young boys."

the6peace8keeper


Pedophilia is found in equal numbers in gay and straight groups. It's not a 'gay' thing, it's a 'pedophile' thing... I hate it when people confuse the two, they're almost completely unrelated neruosis.

We all look for the reasons that the youth of today are the way they are and what part the social and moral degradation of the mainsteam world plays into it. And this topic is just a small part of it.

the6peace8keeper


define the 'moral decay' you see, hell, half of it would be the fact that television has expanded exponetially since the early days of your life. Going from 3 channels and 70 combined broadcast hours to over 500 channels with hundreds of thousands of broadcast hours, and you'll see an exponential rise in 'bad' television. But hey, before there was 'will and grace' there was 'amos and andy', and before there was Ice Cube there was Elvis Presely. Your problem seems to stem from the fact that you embrace your generations 'Moral decay', and are abhored at the next generations 'moral decay'. Hell, Socrates was quoted as saying that the world was doomed, cause kid's these days don't rise when an elder enters a room.
Hell, morality is probably responsible for most of people's neurosis and violence to start with. Why should you, a satanist, be concerned with slave morality(Neitzsche's words, not mine)

I do not believe in any stretch of the imagination that being straight makes life easier than being homosexual. Straight people still make decisions and have lifestyles that are easily criticized and looked down upon. Being homosexual is something one can choose not to be open about. If you choose to be open about it then you should not have an issue with the criticisms, and they should not bother you. That is a decision you have made. Just like when I make the decision to drive without insurance I can keep it to myself. I choose not to and the things people say to me do not offend or affect me in any way.

TheChaosFactor

I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid. You've never lived your life ashamed at the way you feel inside, and never had to leave a family because of it.
How long have you ever been in denial? How long have you ever had a crush that you realize can't be fufilled. How long would you try to decieve your family?
These are complex emotional problems and crisis that come from being gay, and they are in no means 'easy' but are in fact harder than any bullshit you could come up conerning breeders (besides premature pregnancy maybe)...

 

I just don't like it when a transsexual man or woman decides that he wants to be with a non gay without telling said person his/her true gender. (Yes I use to watch Springer but there are some real people that do this.) Just because you feel like a woman or man and you look like one doesn't mean you have the right to trick a person into a relationship. Other than that I love alot of the Gay male actors like:Charles Nelson Reiley, Rip Taylor, Burt Landcastor, JM J. Bullock, Little Richard, Richard Simmons, and Robert Reed. I think for the most part from my limited experience with gays that they are pretty nice and down to earth. I had friend named Quintin that passed away a few years ago and I pray for him everyday. Quintin was quite possible the closest person of male gender that I could truely consider calling an angel. I mean as in Heavenly Angel. He was the nicest, most giving person that I've met here on Earth in a long while. He was so loving and fun that my Dad even loved him and my dad has 0 gay tolerence. The not disclosing to your straight mate that you are gay or a transsexual is the onley thing I don't like about the gay culture becaue I don't invovle myself with their sexual nature or try to understand some of the stuff they do. That George Michaels thing sounded yucky but I'm sure that's not the norm just like Courtney Love isn't the Heterosexual norm lol.

 

so you are ok with incest?

 

good one little birds

 

Not that this post was directed towards me, but I don't hate you, nor am I disgusted, personally. However I still do not see how you would find being born straight easier. I don't consider you different or anything of the nature.

To claim that "straight life" is easier than "gay life" is such bullshit though. I was "born" or inclined to be larcenous. I suffer from cleptomania. To have been any other way would not make my life easier as it stands.


Even as a heterosexual I still find judgement to be a huge part of my life.

It is hard for me to walk through a department store and not realize that I could clean the place out. It's damn near impossible for me to not pocket something as small as a pack of gum because it's there for the picking, and most of the time I take things for no reason. I have money to buy anything I want, yet I steal it if I feel I can. I don't know why this is; I don't need to know why this is. All I know, or need to know is, if I fear judgement than I need to keep from disclosure of this fact.

You are what you are. Why is it so "hard"? If you can't help it(if it is part of you), then why bother worrying about what others think and say?

I want you to know that I'm not picking on you, or trying to argue your point. I just fail to understand. I'd like enlightenment as to why peoples judgement of homosexuals causes you grief, because I personally don't see why it is an issue.

 

Not really, Adam and Eve weren't related but I can see that my point is not gonna be appreciated so I’ll just send out for pizza lol.

 

I think its wrong to be gay, for my own reasons that all of you will pick apart, so its useless of me to express them.

 

Being gay has always been okay.
In some places and times it was more socially acceptable or less so.

Certain people will dislike someone just because they're different then them selves, and gay folks, being only 10 percent of the population are an easy scapegoat.

Gay doesn't have to be okay with you. By that, I mean you yourself don't have to be gay. Never ever. So, how does my being gay harm you? It shouldn't, unless you're harboring some latency you don't want to admit. But folks who hate gay's are like dudes who hate homely women. They hate them because these women aren't sexually appealing to them. Like god put everybody in the world here to please one person, you?

The bible has been wrong on a lot of things. If you still believed everything they told us about the Bible, then you'd still believe that the Earth revolved around the Sun. And it still took the Catholic Church about 500 years to apologize for that one. We pity the fools who believed them. And in another 500 years, if they are still around, the Catholic Church will submit another apology to gay people. And folks will pity heartless fools, like the6peace8keeper (who started this thread) any everyone who has agreed with him.

 

I do not believe in any stretch of the imagination that being straight makes life easier than being homosexual. Straight people still make decisions and have lifestyles that are easily criticized and looked down upon. Being homosexual is something one can choose not to be open about. If you choose to be open about it then you should not have an issue with the criticisms, and they should not bother you. That is a decision you have made. Just like when I make the decision to drive without insurance I can keep it to myself. I choose not to and the things people say to me do not offend or affect me in any way.

TheChaosFactor

I'm sorry, but that's just plain stupid. You've never lived your life ashamed at the way you feel inside, and never had to leave a family because of it.
How long have you ever been in denial? How long have you ever had a crush that you realize can't be fufilled. How long would you try to decieve your family?
These are complex emotional problems and crisis that come from being gay, and they are in no means 'easy' but are in fact harder than any bullshit you could come up conerning breeders (besides premature pregnancy maybe)...
[/QUOTE]I think that straight people and gays just think differently and some of the ways we think are so different that we end up disliking one another. Straight people call a baby in the stomach of a woman a baby while some gays call the baby it, fetus or a bump. Straight people like the terms mother and father while gays want parent one and parent two. Gays consider the act of making love between two straight individuals to be breeding while straight people consider the act of two homosexual people having sex as sexual deviancy. Gays don’t seem to like any labels or any rules about clothing or gender. I’ve even heard some guys refer to their boyfriends has she. People have their own beliefs and right or wrong, that's life. I was reading a letter by a guy that lost his love one to suicide. (Both were gay men) He was talking about how society didn't accept them and then went so far as to say that we (Straight people) were responsible for them (The gay man writing the letter and other gays that feel as he does) not wearing condoms. (They had to go around in secret having unprotected sex so not to be outlasted by society. That's a crock. You don't wear condoms because they cost money, don't feel natural, prevent the sexual act from being spontaneous. You actually have to look at the consequences of your actions when you stop and put on a condom. You actually have to give it consideration and can't say it just happened or it wasn't planned. (Straight people do this too but I'm mentioning gays because the guy wrote this as his excuse and he's gay.) That's my opinion and I'm letting you know what's out there.

 

You tell me what gays are, based on a few, and why you hate them. Cool. I will tell you what breeders are and why I hate them.

But first on the issue of AIDS. You have to remember, that two people are involved. Always two people. Every time you have unprotected sex you are at risk for an std. If you choose to have unprotected sex, and you get an std, you have yourself to blame as well. It's just like taking a risk with drugs. Your buddy might say, "lets try some Jimson Weed (Datura stramonium )." You know what it is and what happens when people take it, but you do it anyway. Well, you can't blame him if you go out of your mind and end up running nude in traffic. You could have said no.

Until you have been bashed by 4 thugs wielding aluminum baseball bats, you won't know what it's like to be gay. Until you have picked up that battered gay boy and carried him to the hospital, you won't know. Well, I know what that's like. He never regained consciousness and died the next day. That was Tim's punishment for loving another boy. They never found the assholes who did it. I'm sure they were proud when they went to church the next day, and by now have bred a whole brood of baseball bat swinging monsters. That is what breeders are.

 

Want a tissue? Because I'm heterosexual I've never been ashamed at the way I live life? I've never deceived my family? I always get with the person I want to? I turned my little brother into a drug dealer for a while, and you don't think that ashamed me? When he got arrested and my parents wanted to know where he got it, I surely didn't tell them it was me nor will I ever. When I got arrested for stealing, I told my parents I'd never done it before. I got caught with $600 worth of electronics. They knew I was lying, I knew they knew, yet I lied anyway because they couldn't prove otherwise therefore couldn't contest point. I mean seriously we all have complex emotional issues, we all long for things we can't have, and we all get judged throughout life. Boo-fucking-hoo, you're homosexual and people don't like it. I'm a piece of shit and people don't like it. You don't have it any worse than anybody else. Just different. Get over yourself.

 

People don't get beat up for being straight, therefore its obviously harder to be gay...

 

No, but straight people get beat up for being black in white areas. Straight people get beat up for being white in black areas.

 

thats irrelevant, a gay person would face the same problems with the racial thing...a person never gets beat up for being straight, think about it, its very obvious.

 

I have nothing against gay people, as long as they don't attempt to push their beliefs on me. I say to each their own. Why should I care if two men want to nail each other up the ass in the privacy of their own home? Why should I care, as long as I don't have to see it, hear it or smell it?

You ask why it is acceptable. It is acceptable because Hollywood and the mainstream media have made it that way. Why? Because Hollywood and the mainstream media are two of the biggest sources of propaganda in the world, capable of shaping how people think, feel and act. Think of the people who control Hollywood and the media, then ask why they would be pushing such a thing. They aren't simply trying to normalize homosexuality, they are trying to glamorize it.

The reason is because rampant homosexuality leads to a breakdown in the natural order of a society. This makes it easier for people to be controlled and manipulated. It creates a breakdown of the family unit that holds society together. It also makes for a great form of population control, because the more people having sex with others of the same gender equals less children being born. The Elite love population control, and such blatant propaganda works almost as good as sterilzation itself.

 

as if its gong to be so rampant that the natural order of things will break down, some of your ideas really go off the deep end. People will always be fucking, and therefore reproducing. Homosexuality isn't nearly as common in hollywood as rampant heterosexuality is.

 

I guess there is some validity to that argument. Doesn't mean they'll get beat up any more than anybody else though. That's an assumption. The point is we all get beat up; does the reason really matter?

 

My point is, they have all of the reasons you might PLUS being gay. They are discriminated against just because they are gay...and whatever else there may be.

 

Gay people aren't discriminated against.... at least not in the workplace. They are most often given preferential treatment by the big corporations they might work for.

Today, being anti-gay is considered just as bad as being racist, if not worse. In the corporate world, anyway. The same corporate world pushing "diversity."